The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. tallguy-09

    tallguy-09 Smile 4 Miles

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    I'd say that it is speculation that the new alternator configuration has anything to do with the heated grips max. temperature. How much power do both pre-2013 draw on the highest setting?
    Could also have to do with legal requirements; some riders without gloves might get their hands roasted and BMW therefore limits the temperature? Who knows...
  2. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Fatter grips?
    Thinner power lines?

    Good thing that in Greece this is more minor than minor. :D
    (erm scratch that, if you actually travel with this bike)
  3. schisi

    schisi Adventurer

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    I didn't really feel a difference... maybe it's only because March is much colder this year in Europe.
  4. Bundu

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    I'm quite sure the alarm will consume virtually no power when active, as it does not have a receiver
  5. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Good report!
    A few things:

    a) Can you elaborate? Clutches do have a "sweet spot" AFAIK, even wet clutches. Here you cannot modulate as much as you wanted and pin-point where the gear goes in?

    c) Is this said as a good or a bad thing? The new clutch is supposed to slip so that you don't get the effect of engine breaking to a dangerous point.

    h) New mappings (as per manual) activate with zero gas and pulled clutch (including while moving). Pretty intuitive I'd say.
  6. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Not true.
    The sensors are still there (both move sensors and receiver for optional remote).

    In "old" GS, alarm deactivates by itself (!) after a few days (don't remember how many) to not kill the battery. I actually found this weird when I read it in the (old) manual. Don't know if it was like that in future revisions and/or current model.
  7. tagesk

    tagesk Tuscan rider

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    In Greece, on Road 20 in Pantalofos, two years ago. I was very happy I had heated grips.

    [TaSK]
  8. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    :clap

    That shaked me a bit. This weekend are the birthdays of me, my son PLUS a kid party of a friend. But next weekend I will definitely go for a trip. F*ck it's been too long.

    Thanks.
  9. MaxReving

    MaxReving Been here awhile

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    I dont like to question your comment. I guess that you by "alarm fob" mean a key fob or remote. Am I right? I have been told that it is not possible to remote control the new alarm system. My dealer told me that they have received updated information from BMW Motorrad just two days ago, that states that it is not possible to remote control the alarm. The user manual that comes with the alarm system does however have an illustration of a key fob on the front page.

    What is right and wrong in all this?

    Max :-)
  10. mrjon

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    The new GS has the same 580W alternator as the K16GT has. That bike hase a 5 stage control for the heated grips controlled through the menu system and on the higher settings it's very warm, much warmer than the GS's.
    The switchgear and grips are also identical, I think the grips can be improved with a simple software upgrade.The grips aren't actually powered all the time but are modulated by software and also take air temperature into account.
  11. Andylaser

    Andylaser Heavy Metal

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    It is the same with Triumph. I recently had the grips on my Tiger replaced under warranty. The old ones would get so hot that within 5 minutes, you needed to turn them to low setting. The new ones can be left on high constantly and still arent hot enough.
  12. paulW

    paulW Been here awhile

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    Good point, well made. I am sure you are correct on the pulse width modulation to control power output (same as LED lights) and a simple software upgrade. Let's nag the life out of dealers until we get what we want :wink:
  13. Deans BMW

    Deans BMW Granpa Hoon

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    Re the apparent "Slipping Clutch".

    The new GS's have a slipper clutch, or "Anti Hopping" as it is called in Europe.
  14. airhawk1

    airhawk1 Asspad Tycoon

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    I rode for about 45 minutes yesterday with my grips on high on the new GS. This is something that I never did on my R12R. I would get them warmed up on high, then I would have to go to low because they got too hot. This hasn't happened yet on the new GS.
  15. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    So it is pretty much common observation that the heated grips suck on new GS. :)

    I really hope this can be fixed using software (I am not so sure).
    I wonder how they missed this when Germany is a cold country...

    More and more things seem to have slipped. Someone inform this guy:
    http://www.autoevolution.com/
    ...as he absolutely loves to bash GS (behind an "objectivity" curtain).

    I can already see his next blog entry: "LC GS failures pile up! Frostbite from messed up heated grips! 6th recall soon? (he seems to add recalls in doubles) Will they do it right this time or burn the fingers of their customers?"
  16. IB1

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    Nah, they just failed to adapt the heated grips to the demographics of the buyerspublic... Those old guys have bad circulation and need very warm grips... :rofl

    On my previous Beamer I only put them on the low stand, that was enough for me. Almost time to try it out on the GS LC.
  17. 268

    268 Been here awhile

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    Already heard something on your delivery ? Over here it sadly stays quiet..:cry
  18. mtbenson

    mtbenson Been here awhile

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    My electric vest works fine running in through the canbus.
  19. IB1

    IB1 Long timer

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    Time for a walk (to the dealer). I'll drop off my cylinderheadprotection and ask them to mount it.
    I got the papers on Tuesday. They didn't have the bike yet. License plate and insurance are already ok.
  20. 268

    268 Been here awhile

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    Lucky you :clap
    Don't forget the pics :wink: