The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. MaxReving

    MaxReving Been here awhile

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    Headlight protector, item no. 77 51 8 529 214, approx. 100 Euro (in Europe) or 100 USD (in the US).

    Max :-)
  2. kaiserlover

    kaiserlover Adventurer

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    what's my dog got to do with it?:clap
  3. tau

    tau Adventurer

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    UK Engineer and Racegun, thanks for your replies / comments - I do agree with you!

    ESA is a very nice feature, BUT the moment it has to be replaced, there is no doubt it surely makes you angry - and the wallet will be crying...!
  4. Serp

    Serp Been here awhile

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    Yes a low suspension model can be ordered but it is not available with ESA.
  5. Serp

    Serp Been here awhile

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    I've ordered the headlight guard for a mere $156.72. :eek1
    Also ordered the luggage plate - 77448523742 and small tankbag - 77458534698. Waiting on the guard and plate but my tankbag is ready for pickup.

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  6. cug

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    That's so true. I haven't tried the new dynamic ESA yet, but the stock suspension on the non-ESA is not a quality suspension. It's harsh, not compliant at all and has a hard time keeping the wheels where they should be on a crappy road (compared to the aftermarket suspension on my Tiger).

    The old ESA was only marginally better. It is very handy to quickly adjust things, but it was adjusting from a soft and fairly shitty suspension to a hard and fairly shitty suspension. The new system better be a lot better than that.

    On the old model, putting the money ESA costs toward an aftermarket suspension that is built for your weight and riding style made the bike much better. I did not do that on the GS, but rode one with front/rear Öhlins and it was a big difference - I was surprised how compliant a GS suspension could be when done properly.
  7. jantarek

    jantarek Long timer

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    Soooo I took a decent 30min or so demo last Saturday here in CT
    and…… HOLY COW that thing is a beast!!
    Getting on local highway I pushed a little (about 6k rpm/gear) and by the
    time the ramp was over I was doing xxx mph, woow its fast.
    The front feels light at speed (sort of like f800gs) but the wind protection is very ince and the
    buffering is down to min. (much better than what I have on 1150), the pick up in 6<SUP>th</SUP> gear
    is pure amazing but the seat is kind of stiff, no biggie.
    Two exits later I found a local sort of twisty road (rt25) and woow again, it feels so great
    on turns and all I want it to do is push it lower and go faster ( oh man where is the friggin dragon
    when you need one), breaks on the dime and stable as hell, this thing is officially the most
    well ballanced bike I&#8217;ve ever sat on.
    This is a whole new ball game for GS and I&#8217;m very impressed, very.
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    Right now I have 2003 1150GSA (92k) and maybe sometime this end summer/fall I might be
    upgrating to something new and for what it looks like it will be (I hope) the last 1200ADV
    I love the new GS but its not my cup of tea, and maybe I&#8217;ll try again once they have ADV version.
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    Anyway
    My 02 cents
    Cheers
    Jerry
  8. Racegun

    Racegun Single Track Mind!

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    If those welds in the previous picture were done at the BMW factory, and they continue to produce bikes with weld-ments like that.......... we are definitely in big trouble. Some of those joints were actually almost cold weld joints.. or at least looked that way in the ( not so good pics as opposed to up close and in person). And don't forget, once paint is applied a weld almost always looks better. COLD WELD = a failure at some point !

    After attending college and taking Industrial arts ( welding classes were part of the curriculum) I welded for a while. Yeppers those weld-ments would have earned me a NON PASSING grade ....jus saying

    OH MY ...what art thou doing BMW? Surely it can not be only about pure profit and damn everything else?
  9. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Luggage plate cost?
  10. MaxReving

    MaxReving Been here awhile

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    This is wrong. The low suspension version can ONLY be ordered with "Dynamic ESA" and "ASC and Modes". Furthermore, you cannot order the low seat together with the lowered suspension because the low seat is a part of the low suspension option.

    Below is a screen dump from the German bike configurator. I can not give 100% guarantee that all options are available worldwide.

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    Max :-)
  11. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    No because the demo bike I rode didn't have the ride modes and I consider the throttle sensitivity to be completely ill-suited for any offroad use at all and not to my liking for on-road use.
  12. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    I've seen better welds on a chinese made bicycle frame. Sad.
  13. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    Sorry but this is incorrect.
  14. Cycling101

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    I was also told by my dealer and by a BMW rep at the regional motorcycle show that ESA was not available with the low suspension option.
  15. nwpa

    nwpa Generally amused

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    Reading from the US launch guide:

    499 Low Suspension, 31.1/31.9 inches (only w/191 Dynamic ESA, Incl 776) - $250

    776 is Low seat, 32.3/33.1 inches, $0

    191 is Dynamic ESA (only w/190) - $950

    190 is Enduro ASC and Riding modes (only w/191, or packages 234, 237, or 238) - $450
  16. GSMarc

    GSMarc Long timer

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    "I was also told by my dealer and by a BMW rep at the regional motorcycle show that ESA was not available with the low suspension option"

    It is the opposite :D

    Select a basic R1200GS with NO Pack.

    When you select Low Suspension in 'Equipment in Options'


    ESA & ASC come automatically in the Bike Configurator
  17. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    You were told wrong
  18. IB1

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    This was true for the old versions, for the 2013 low suspension is only available with ESA.
  19. Cycling101

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    Yep. Thanks for quickly pointing that out :lol3
  20. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    Read the forum more often...was discussed long ago :D