The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. /dev/null

    /dev/null Been here awhile

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    Just for s---s and giggles, we weighed my Dad's LC today. This was done on an analog bathroom scale, one wheel at a time, with the bike perfectly balanced on it. Front was 258, rear 255. Bike was full minus 78 miles at 45 MPG (US), so I figure 10lb more fuel could be added (1 2/3 gallons at 6lb/gal). Total curb weight is thus 523lb (give or take due to bathroom-scale accuracy).

    This is a "Premium" trim level bike, cast wheels, ESA, heated grips, both seats + stock rear rack in place, and the OEM Nav IV mount (but without the Nav IV on it). No farkles added/removed. No bags.

    My '11 TB with ESA, Touratech Nav IV setup, BMW crash bar (lower only), and laced wheels weighs 540 full of gas.

    I think that crash bar is about 6 lb...so it seems to me for ESA bikes...the LC is lighter. My old bike, (a fully loaded non-ESA '08) was 512lb.

    That "525lb" number they quote seems to be for an ESA bike...unless the ESA just doesn't weigh any more than the stock suspension. Bear in mind the LC does not have a front preload adjustment motor for its ESA, which I'm guessing are relatively heavy.

    The hardest part of the whole deal was getting two GS' into the bathroom.
  2. pauljm

    pauljm R1200GS WC

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    Nope no time to do it myself.

    All good called dealer to check on options that should be in & he got my service move to early next week & add all the new bits. :)
    Note well the BMW LED headlight protector. Apparently 2 hours work for a BMW mechanic + engine bars & rad guards etc.
  3. pauljm

    pauljm R1200GS WC

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    Has anyone mounted anything on the sat nav mount bar? Looking for a sturdy clamp & arm to mount hand held radio. Beside the GPS.
  4. RichBMW

    RichBMW Long timer

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    The Akra is still at the dealer and they fit it Saturday, but if I could see the fitting instructions first, I was thinking of doing it myself if it looks easy. But Saturday is only 3 days away, so I'll wait.:D
  5. carlsberger

    carlsberger ManyPauser

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    Thanks for looking will do same

    Carlsberger
  6. kindofblue

    kindofblue Ride it like you stole it

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    Thanks for this. It's good to have a real world verification of BMW's weight claims.

  7. Racegun

    Racegun Single Track Mind!

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  8. Dr. Greg

    Dr. Greg Tryin' to get home..

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    Did exactly the same thing with my 2010 Multistrada 1200S Touring, although the fuel tank was full.

    Results: 260 lb F, 260 lb R : 520 lb total

    So the GS LC is basically the exact weight of the Multi. Now if only the GS Touratech pannier rack wasn't so malformed (need to transfer the TT panniers from the Multi to the GS if I were to buy).

    Thanks again.

    --Doc

  9. BigDave75

    BigDave75 Will Work for Food!

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    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
  10. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Someone translate that?
  11. mrjon

    mrjon Been here awhile

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    It gives step by step diagrams and directions, very easy honest.You just need a couple of tools and some copper paste.
  12. RuckedUp

    RuckedUp Long timer

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    Got a call from BMW dealer yesterday telling me they got a American spec available if I want it. (Mil sales here in Germany) Seems after I was not interested in buying one that would not be ready for delivery till June they did some calling around Germany.

    It has the comfort and dynamic pkg. along with cruise and a silver can. I'm wondering if the BMW GPS is compatable with my XM sat antenna I use with my Zumo 550? I'm not hell bent on buying proprietary GPS units (learned lesson with my Vovlo) but the thumb wheel seems better than reaching up to mess with the zumo while on the go.
  13. radon222

    radon222 14GSAW

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    Sorry the BMW NavIV is the equivalent of the Zumo 660 and has no XM support at all.
  14. GGR

    GGR n00b

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    Just got a call from Hyperpro. They have my bike (GS LC with D-ESA) on loan for a few days to determine how to fit/develop their products (suspension, steering dampers) for it.

    After riding it and doing their measurement they had some feedback you guys might find interesting:

    • They mentioned the standard shocks were the best they ever experienced on a GS. Normally these guys are not very impressed with the standard equipment (well, that is their business, you can't blame them) but in this case they thought differently.
    • They drove it, and were very impressed by the handling. Maybe the steering was a bit too light for their taste.
    • They felt Dynamic ESA worked very well. They tested it and the system is fast enough to change the settings of the rear suspension when the front hits a bump.
    • The Dynamic ESA allows replacing the springs. There was a discussion about this a while ago on this forum, but it just meassures the dampening and adjust accordingly. Apparently it doesn't assume anything about the characteristics of the spring itself.
    • But, as could be expected, they had some concerns about the repair-ability of the system. Much more complex, if it breaks you better go to a dealer.
    • The spring of the front suspension cannot be replaced separately, only as a complete unit.
    • A new mounting kit for the steering damper must be designed, as the old one does not fit.

    All in all they were very enthusiastic about it, that's always nice to know. :clap
  15. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Great report from real experts. Thanks.
    Fantastic that they were so honest. Really shows their professionalism (they don't need to feed cr*p).

    EDIT: Actually now that I think of this, just your report made them #1 choice to at least one possible client. (for their steering dumper and/or for my current GS)
  16. RuckedUp

    RuckedUp Long timer

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    That does not surprise me. Great if I get this bike I have a GPS set up for a GPS I wont/cant use. Maybe I can have them take it off and get credit for it.

    Test road again for a hour today, got it out on the Autobahn and was doing a nice clip of 110mph with out much wind buffet felt very clean compaired to the head buffet I get on my HD. Even got a little rain; again felt protected. Felt like I was getting pushed around a bit with a strong cross wind but noting that worried me. The test bike I had did not have cruise on it which was a bummer so I did not get to try that out, (one of my big reasons for getting a new bike)

    I found some dirt and did 3 miles on gravel double track. Had the bike in Eunduro mode was to big a puss to try the Pro mode as I could just see me laying the bike down. Felt very stable zipping along at 40mph with street tires on.

    At speed I noticed a good amount of buzzing in the foot pedals is this normal for a bike like this? Bars will need a set of risers at some point and maybe pulled toward me a bit.

    Another thing was the mag tires have the air valve in one of the spokes, so I'm for sure going for the enduro rims.

    Im still thinking but the dealer says they will hold it till Monday for me.

    Few pics of the bike.

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    Still feels like a big number...
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  17. GGR

    GGR n00b

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    They expect to have a damper ready for me in a few weeks time. In the end, that was the reason I contacted them and then I found out they were just 10km from my home.
  18. IB1

    IB1 Long timer

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    That price is quit a lot cheaper than the regular price. I bought my car on the diplomatic market and that was good for a 30% discount (volvo). For my bike I didn't have the opportunity.
  19. RuckedUp

    RuckedUp Long timer

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    I've purchased a few autos with the mil discount which makes the bike look so much better
  20. hammick

    hammick Long timer

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    I am sure it is somewhere in these 600 pages but I cannot find it. What are the service intervals on the 2013 R1200GS? I'm probably going to trade my K1600GT on one.

    Is the 600 mile just engine oil change, rear drive change and inspections?

    Any word on the valves? I'm assuming the heads don't have to be re-torqued?

    Thanks.