The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. Hambonee

    Hambonee Been here awhile

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    I am going to buck most of the crowd and say the LED is nice but not needed for $800.

    1)Yes it will resell for less but you pay more
    2)Yes it is VERY good but the GS has been around forever without one and can continue just fine without.
    3)Some aftermarket spotlights can be had much cheaper and will function where you are going to need them.
    4)I have no issue seeing or being seen with the standard lights.

    Anyways..It is really a matter of priority. I probably would have bought with if the bike was in stock with but did not want to wait and fine without. Looking at the whole setup if I get really desperate to have them down the line I wonder if it will be possible to swap out the unit for the LEDs. I bet it is pretty modular.

    Plus, all I think you get ith the LED is TPS also...pretty sure..and I HAVE heard of issues with the TPS...dang you BMW for not making this something you can just get on your own:bluduh
  2. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    1. True. Yet it will also resell EASIER with them. (dealers already discount NEW ones without them) Also the price difference is not just the lights.

    2. True. Many other things also. Like water cooling. Or ASC, or ESA, or ABS... So? (or we can take this further and say that most riders are perfectly fine without a GS)

    3. Not really the same. At all.

    4. So if something is already good (which btw is NOT true for non-LC GS... standard lights are far from being the best in category), you are not allowed to make it better?

    OK I understand we all want to make "excuses" for our choices, but sometimes we just have to say simple things like "well it's nice but I can't pay for that", "well it's nice but I want other things more", or "well it's nice but I already did the other thing and I have to like it" (I don't say any of the above fits you).
    For example in my case the whole LC thing is fantastic (both on paper and on the tests I did), but I just can't pay for it now. So I say "my 2007 is fine AND I might be able to get that version "1.5" LC after all the beta testing is done". Yet, I know perfectly fine that this is just my excuse. :evil
  3. pauljm

    pauljm R1200GS WC

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    The LEDs are worth waiting for. Best lights I have had on a bike by far.
    Don't bet you can just swap in the LEDs down the track got caught with my latest car. Needs rewriting harness for xenon lights, basically too expensive to even consider. I am told.
  4. emack

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    Okay, I'm sure this has been covered, but I can't find it. I'm adding a fuse block under the seat for my accessories (air horn, lights. etc) and am trying to find a good wire to tie into that's hot when the bike is on. I tried the green wire off of the GPS power because it is hot when on, but that isn't working for some reason. I know my relay is good because I hooked it up straight to the battery through a switch and it's fine. Where have you guys tapped into for your switched accessories?

    Thanks!
    Erik
  5. Bazgab

    Bazgab Been here awhile

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    My fuse block is going at the very tail end of the bike. The closest switched power source I found back there was a wire coming out of what I later realized was the TPM module. I am pretty sure I don't want to tap into that so I need to find something else.

    I would want to use the diagnostic plug next to the battery but I am unsure of which wire I need to use (haven't tried testing them yet). At a glance, the wire colors are different from previous years as I don't recall seeing the Blue/Green wire that most use to tap into. My Skene P3 lights need to tap into this wire and I would not be able to hook anything else up to it, so I still need to find another switched power source.
  6. cjack

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    Is the tail light a simple one filament? Or the parking light which I usually use at the front of the bike. Is there a switched wire from the diagnostic plug that is not data?
  7. Bazgab

    Bazgab Been here awhile

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    You cannot use the tail light wire, it will throw a !LAMPR code if you do, ran into that when installing the P3 Lights because of not reading the note in the instructions. I haven't looked into the parking light but i don't know if there is a separate wire for it, I have the LED headlights so all the front lights are enclosed in that, I need to take off some of the front panels to check out that wiring.

    There might be a switched wire from the diagnostic plug, i need to test the wires with my multimeter. There just isn't the blue/green wire like the old one, there is a red wire (power, not sure if switched or not yet), brown (ground), and two other wires.

    EDIT: I just heard from Jerry Skene who just had another customer find a good source for a switched power connection. There is a red or orange wire with a brown trace coming out of the connector for the left handgrip. This is found right above the bike's ECU under the rider's seat. See picture below for more exact location.

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  8. Dave Flanders

    Dave Flanders Adventurer

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    Just picked up my new GS h2o and can not access enduro pro mode. Even though I bought a bike with all three option packages which states its the enduro pro computer my dealer now tells me its an extra.
    Anyone know if this is correct or not?
  9. Hambonee

    Hambonee Been here awhile

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    oh..not saying that!

    I just think it is a priority thing..it was wait or have now. In 4 years(when LEDs are standard on all bikes) I will probably swap for one that is...

    Just providing some input after the "you can't survive without" responses...

    You can...but it is a damn nice option if you are willing to pay for...just not as desperatly required as some make it sound.:D

    Either way I am REALLY glad they went to LED as hopefully this will start a trend towards making them standard and doing away with the old ones. Really..it should not take this long to adopt something like this...
  10. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Enduro Pro is a mode that gets enabled by small "stick" (like USB stick) you plug on a port under the seat.

    It IS for free and NOT an extra for people that have bought the "ride modes" version.

    So tell your dealer that you are waiting for your plug and he'd better find one.
  11. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Homo Sapiens is a very adaptive species.
    We can survive pretty much everything on the planet.
    :D
  12. fubar201

    fubar201 Been here awhile

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    True, but you will need a firmware update too.
  13. Hambonee

    Hambonee Been here awhile

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    :rofltrue that!

    Hey, since we are talking about headlights and don't have my manual with me. THe 2013 still uses 55W H7s right?

    I am sure they come with sucky bulbs so will probably buy some better ones...:D
  14. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Yes.
  15. cjack

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    Wires with tracers (multy colored wires) are generally switched, solid like red or brown (ground) are never switched.
    Except...now that I think of it, solid green was always ignition hot which came on with the key.
  16. nickgoa

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    The dealer had his Demo with almost everything I want on the bike...except the LED package.... even thought it was brand new Demo...(I was the first one to ride it)...I passed and I'm on a 3 month wait...a huge reason beeing the LED Light. July is not here soon enough....

    to each his own I guess...


    Enjoy your bike!!!
  17. emack

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    Nice! Thanks. I did tap in to the taillight, and it hasn't thrown an error yet. If it does, I'll be switching to the wire you mentioned.

    Thanks for the quick responses guys! My air horn sounds NICE.
  18. mercieca

    mercieca n00b

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    Should have asked, are they spoked wheels? Read below if they are.

    Just going to put this out there. Ask to check if the hub is not off centre to the outside rim. When I bought my GS years ago, it was the first time they had seen this problem on my bike. I had the dealer at the time say the same thing, and actually say your just getting used to the bike, so don't take no for an answer. Ride it at low speeds and see if there is a bobbing effect.
  19. Voz

    Voz Been here awhile

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    I agree. The light this thing throws out is astonishing, I love mine and will never go back. I have had a lot of LED lights over the years fro filming, etc. They never seem to die.
  20. Voz

    Voz Been here awhile

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    I am looking to attach my wiring loom from my Admore LED lights installed in my Givi V46 top box. I had this loom wired into my Versys 650. I had a look under the GS seat and there is very little wiring in there, haha.

    Anyone have any advice? I need to tap GND, 12V, Left, Right, Brake & Lights. I can see the wires running to the rear LED lights, can these be tapped?