The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. dmac57

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    True, but that muddies the water a bit. The 1100S was a holdover of the 1100 motor in a different set of running gear. The 1200C had more in common mechanically with the 1100s than the 1150s. The 1150 family was the main product line for a long time until the introduction of the hexheads.

    What I think the OPs were saying is that it's unlikely that you'll see parallel production of camheads and waterboxers on the same models, say two different GS-es. But what do I know? I'm putting words in someone else's mouth.
  2. GSMarc

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    we will soon control that, when the 2012 S1000RR will be available, we will check if the previous one will be still on German website.

    http://www.bmw-motorrad.de/de/de/index.html
  3. dmac57

    dmac57 Long timer

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    :huh :confused
  4. GSMarc

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    yes, we will see if they sell in the same time 2011 S1000RR & 2012 S1000RR :ear
  5. dmac57

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    Why does this feel like a tar baby?
  6. 996DL

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    It's so pleasant now, that the BMW owners, have their own model specific advrider forums. :lol3

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  7. mike p1

    mike p1 WELL LIT ADVENTURER

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    The KTM ADV was supposed to put a BIG dent in GS sales it did not. The Tenere will not.The Triumph will not. I for one LOVE the other Bike MFRs getting in the game , It can only make things BETTER FOR ALL!!!! I just wish for people to be HAPPY with whatever bike they buy, like I am happy with mine.
  8. tagesk

    tagesk Tuscan rider

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    Sales first 10 month of 2011 in Italy (the biggest marked in Europa:

    <table border="1"> <tbody><tr> <td>BMW R1200GS / Adventure</td> <td>4.782</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Kawazaki Z750/R</td> <td>2.130</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Ducati Multistrada 1200/S Touring</td> <td>1.815</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Honda Hornet</td> <td>1.704</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BMW R1200R</td> <td>1.590</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Triumph TIger 800</td> <td>1.572</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Honda XL700V Transalp</td> <td>1.496</td> </tr> <tr> <td>H-D XL 1200X</td> <td>1.395</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BMW F800 GS</td> <td>1.382</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BMW F800 R</td> <td>1.336</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Suzuki DL 650 V-Strom</td> <td>1.332</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Triumph Bonneville</td> <td>1.225</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Ducati Hypermotard 796</td> <td>1.198</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Yamaha FZ8</td> <td>1.158</td> </tr> <tr> <td>H-D SL 883 N</td> <td>1.059</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Yamaha XJ6</td> <td>1.021</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Honda CB1000R</td> <td>996</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Kawazaki ER-6N</td> <td>919</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BMW G 650 GS</td> <td>848</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Ducati Diavel ABS</td> <td>838</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
    The Suzuki DL 650 V-Strom is climbing, and was the most sold bike in October (competing with the more than double-price 12GS).

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  9. Eddy Alvarez

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    What is the unit of measurement on the numbers in the chart below?

  10. Poolside

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    Looks like units sold. In numeric expressions, EU and the US use periods and commas oppositely.
    $3.99 looks like &#8364;3,99 (except for currency conversion)

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  11. tagesk

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    Units sold, as Poolside says.

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  12. Beemerlover

    Beemerlover Been here awhile

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    Wow! They really love those GS's over there. More than two-to-one above the next best seller. :eek1

    I guess that pretty much says it all.
  13. Poolside

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    At one recent point Italy had as many GS as the entire US.


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  14. Beemerlover

    Beemerlover Been here awhile

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    So BMW in Europe is like Harley in the US? That would seem to be the case.

    Do they have gangs over there that dress like pirates and piss off the locals with their loud-as-hell GS's? :D
  15. tagesk

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    :rofl

    err - um, no.

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  16. darmahman

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    Is this chart for all bikes sold in Italy or just 1200GS competition? Also - Where did you get this info from? Thanks

    QUOTE=tagesk;17474163]Sales first 10 month of 2011 in Italy (the biggest marked in Europa:

    <table border="1"> <tbody><tr> <td>BMW R1200GS / Adventure</td> <td>4.782</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Kawazaki Z750/R</td> <td>2.130</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Ducati Multistrada 1200/S Touring</td> <td>1.815</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Honda Hornet</td> <td>1.704</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BMW R1200R</td> <td>1.590</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Triumph TIger 800</td> <td>1.572</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Honda XL700V Transalp</td> <td>1.496</td> </tr> <tr> <td>H-D XL 1200X</td> <td>1.395</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BMW F800 GS</td> <td>1.382</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BMW F800 R</td> <td>1.336</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Suzuki DL 650 V-Strom</td> <td>1.332</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Triumph Bonneville</td> <td>1.225</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Ducati Hypermotard 796</td> <td>1.198</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Yamaha FZ8</td> <td>1.158</td> </tr> <tr> <td>H-D SL 883 N</td> <td>1.059</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Yamaha XJ6</td> <td>1.021</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Honda CB1000R</td> <td>996</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Kawazaki ER-6N</td> <td>919</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BMW G 650 GS</td> <td>848</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Ducati Diavel ABS</td> <td>838</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
    The Suzuki DL 650 V-Strom is climbing, and was the most sold bike in October (competing with the more than double-price 12GS).

    [TaSK][/QUOTE]
  17. DasMatti

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    It's everywhere the same, here in Europe.
    Germany is even more clear. Didn't find the statistic from 2010. But BMW held the first 5 places in a row, and I think 8 out of Top10....

    This one's from September 2011:

    1 BMW R 1200 GS 370
    2 Honda CBF 1000 332
    3 Kawasaki ER-6f/6n 136
    4 BMW R 1200 R 109
    5 BMW F 800 R 107
    6 BMW S 1000 RR 99
    7 Yamaha XJ6 95
    8 Suzuki V-Strom 650 88
    9 BMW F 800 GS 87
    10 BMW K 1600 GT 84
  18. EJ_92606

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    Impressive the GS did so well against the new Multistrada in its own market!
  19. motoreiter

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    I'm surprised the R1200R is that popular. I rented one recently in Italy (when my R1200GS broke...) and it was pretty meh.
  20. Martincito

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    I'm surprise that the big GS is so popular in Europe. Almost no unpaved roads, small streets, super tight packed traffic. If I move back there I'd get a more sport touring oriented bike, like a Multistrada or even something smaller to filter through the traffic.
    Btw, I looove my GS!