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Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.
...at least that's the way I read it...
IMHO, I've found that BMW keeps moving forward and makes their models better and better each year. I'm sure that the new "GS" water cooled version, will be fantastic. Also, I'm sure that there will many used "non" water cooled versions to buy, for those who prefer them.
As for me, I admit that I like the more "simple" approach that this current air/oil cooled motor offers and I'm happy, and content with its H.P./Torque for the "REAL" roads of life (heck, 90% of riders out there cant even begin to "effectively" use the H.P. they already have, but of course want more).
Currently, I'm in the market for another BMW (a new GS or R). I'm a bit torn, because I know how good the current air/oil engine package is and the way they handle, and perform, and I ask myself how much better can they really make it? The fact is, as time marches forward, "typically" so do advancements in design, metallurgy, efficiency, less weight. Anyway, time will tell if my new "air/oil cooled" GS or R will need to be replaced with the new "water-cooled" version???
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+1. But then again, I'm just trying to build my post count!
Breathe deep and reread and most importantly, don't apply for work as a proofreader.
Seriously, this happens every time BMW brings out a new model. The masses cry foul about the increase in technology and complexity, but then the new becomes old and it starts all over again.
Personally I am looking forward to the new bike as likely my next new bike. I was an early adopter on the Hexhead, and will be on the new Wethead!
Couple of quicks in reply to this smart post...
Just dragged these two pics into Photoshop, resized your referenced second image, and it laughingly came to be that the two bikes are identical in size, angle, and accouterments...I also looked at the images in the pixel level and everything is near identical on the bikes...will post pics later of one layered over the other with transparency thrown in to illustrate the point when time is availed...lastly it is worth mentioning that the only delta in the bikes is the rather low brow Photoshop manipulation in the tank area...that and the cheese backgrounds which are Photoshop'd in...silly wabbits...
Some artist took the first picture, changed the helmet and did some other stuff to it but it's based on the
actually, the bike is in the exact same angle/direction, and besides changing the background in Photoshop, they put two different sized riders on it with different body positions...clever, but cheese...
The wheels are in the same position.
IDK about y'all but once my RT got to about 24k miles, I didn't have to touch my valves despite checking em every 6k. Traded that bike in with 50k miles on it.
The GS-Adv went the same way. First few it was important to check and adjust. After about 24k again, I kept checking, but they weren't moving.
Two features I could see being very persuasive on a new Boxer (whichever way it's cooled) are variable cam timing and traction control.
Cam timing could be a huge benefit for those looking for enhanced torque in lower ranges without sacrificing upper end (like Lennie's sprockets). Though the sprockets are a great mod, they're mechanical and don't adapt during use.
Traction control could be useful so we keep the big lug upright when things get slippery. Yeah, I guess I'm a little old school but having ABS save my bacon a few times I could see a (hopefully) version which doesn't burden the bike with excess weight or complexity.
Boots and gloves are the same...
Wow.. it's a "Spot The Similarity" contest - how exciting!!!
Where is DasMatti, by now he must have checked it out, right?
We need more pictures and more news, iPad 3 style, each week we get a little bit of something.
How many pixels and dots/inch does the new TFT cockpit display come with?
When can we start talking about it's gas mileage and how it handles?
hi Brain Damage, mileage sucks vs a push bike, and handling sucks too vs a car. But these things are fun.. 'mh what where you on about?
I'm thinking Brain Drainage was insinuating higher output means also higher input? Not sure because the higher
output would only be relevant at higher rpm so I can see it using less hydrocarbons than the hex and camhead
utilizing a more modern Bosch injection and engine management system
This thing has yet to be made and it's already saved alot of fuel.
Your thinking is making a lot of sense to me. Enjoyed reading it.