The Alta Thread

Discussion in 'Electric Motorcycles' started by swamp, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. rainmaker8

    rainmaker8 Been here awhile

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    Oh that is HORRIBLE! I was looking forward to that race so very much. I hope they retrieve all of it soon!
  2. bionicman

    bionicman On your Mom

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    special place for bike theives....:kboom
  3. Florida Lime

    Florida Lime Long timer

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    That sucks !
  4. Rokoneer

    Rokoneer Been here awhile

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    KTM had taken great offense to Alta wanting to be the first all electric at Erzberg as basically Erzberg and KTM are synonymous with each other.

    KTM wanted to be the first electric but doesn't have a competitive enough electric machine and had tried to get Alta made ineligible, with no luck.

    It looks like KTM got their wish through different means....
  5. RTF

    RTF Been here awhile

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    Any source to this^? I don’t doubt it at all just curious how one knows this unless intimately familiar with both teams.
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    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1269408263193217&id=133067113494010

    Here is a copy of a facebook post on the Alta results

    Well done @tyga_114 who held onto a top 20 position on the @altamotors electric bike @erzbergrodeo_official until he ran out of power just before the calculated change point. It’s all new for the team, we’ve learnt a lot, collected a lot of data and will take that away, improve strategies and I’m sure will be back stronger. Qualifying front row and gathering this data is crucial for a team just starting out in this sport with completely new technology. [​IMG][​IMG]⚡️#electricrodeo #redshift #futureoffast

    Here is a link to the post but not sure if this will work since I am not a facebook user.

    https://www.facebook.com/LyndonPosk...0487.133067113494010/1273316732802370/?type=3
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  7. anonny

    anonny What could go wrong?

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    I saw on kick azz at a local race and was very impressed so I went online to check them out. I’d love to have the SM but $14k translates to $17k before duties and taxes, I’m out... pity
  8. rainmaker8

    rainmaker8 Been here awhile

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    To be fair, when criticizing the initial cost of an electric powered machine you ought to account for all the additional costs that a gasoline powered machine requires in maintenance and waste.
    Battery prices will come down.
    So will cost of electric power.
    Exciting times!

  9. LocuL

    LocuL Gnarly Infantry

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    Same goes for owning-buying an EV. The initital cost sucks. But the medium and long run is top dollar.
  10. voltsxamps

    voltsxamps Advolturer

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    True. I’ve already spent $1100 this past year on maintaining my current bike vs. $0 maintenance in the 1.5 years I owned an EM.

    Cost to refuel is another important factor; for me is roughly $240/year for gas vs. around $60/yr to recharge with help from my solar panels. Even without solar panels my cost is still 2-3x less vs. gas.

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    To estimate cost savings of electric vs gas in your state, visit https://www.energy.gov/articles/egallon-how-much-cheaper-it-drive-electricity
  11. dentvet

    dentvet Long timer

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    Running out of battery at the erzburg is the only failure scenario that should have been made an impossibility.:hide
  12. Lotta Throttle

    Lotta Throttle Adventurer

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    I really want an Alta for local trail riding so I'm counting on Alta to show some facts about ride time at Erzberg in FULL power mode before I commit. No one thought Alta would finish the race, but how many miles did they make it on FULL power mode? Erzberg put a serious drain on power which only drew the battery down more quickly. Any of my cordless drills can drill sheetrock screws a plenty but throw in decking screws or a masonry bit and it's a different matter. Come on Alta, spill those stats.
  13. rainmaker8

    rainmaker8 Been here awhile

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    Go easy, the bikes and gear got stolen right before the race so they had limited time to find replacements... I guess a spare battery was too hard to find so LP donated his to the team mate. Amazing! Since it is their first time running the race, how could they know the power demand very accurately. I think they all deserve applause for even attempting and doing as well as they did.
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  14. voltsxamps

    voltsxamps Advolturer

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    Very respectable.
    Conditions are amongst the harshest seen anywhere for bike and rider:

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  15. robertaccio

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    The Alta rep had the standard "enduro" version as well as the MXR version at the Cahuilla Creek MX vet track, last month. The MXR was brand new and not for public test rides.
    I rode the standard model and never switched from map 1. The bike is 10 times what I imagined it would be. I ride and race as 50A/Expert in offroad and enduro. This bike is very very impressive, I would race it straight out of the box. Yes it does have more heft than my TX300 Husky but is still on it's way down in weight through new tech. I could feel it's 260lb weight, but hell the last model line of Gas Gas 300s were were 260 dry.... On that day I was riding my 01 YZ125, and I believe I was quite a bit faster around the track on the Alta Redshift in map 1 mode......there are 4 maps to choose from mild (its not) to wild which I did not even try. The machine is no toy, it's a serious offroad race bike. Again I say I would race this thing in the Tecate Enduro out of the box.....if the battery would last all day (or should I say when the battery tech lasts all day). The new price point puts them very near to the top tier racing 4 strokes from EU, so they are very close in price now, but as stated above yearly op costs will be down bigtime from a combustion bike.
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  16. Lotta Throttle

    Lotta Throttle Adventurer

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    I see myself as an MXR candidate but this new Dual Sport model EXR is interesting:
    https://www.altamotors.co/#redshift-exr-1
    50
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    HR 240V RECHARGE
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    LBS WET WEIGHT
    12495
    MSRP
    50 mile range city, 4+ hours trails.
    I'm probably overthinking this but how can it go only 50 miles in the city but still get 4 hours of trail time?
    On the MXR, Alta claims "4+ hours of expert single track and woods" which I can only assume is equivalent to the 5 diamond type trails at Coal Creek or MotoMtn?
    I for one wish they would give the hour/mile rating on FULL power mode before it cuts back to the low power "get me back to a charger" mode.
    Stats from their Erzberg race would be nice because that race surely maxed out the full power mode very quickly. How many miles did the bikes make it there?
  17. roma258

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    Electric bikes hate to be wide open throttle over extended periods of time. The open, closed, brake, open slower speed nature of trail riding should suit battery life very well. It's why they do so much better in cities than on the freeway. I'd love to test this theory out, that EXR is looking TASTY!!!
  18. Sparrowhawk

    Sparrowhawk Long timer

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    I can't comment on the Iron Giant but I spoke with an Alta rep at the Desert 100 this spring after a test ride (Thanks Skagit Powersports!). The Desert 100 is a 50 mile fast loop through the basalt desert in Eastern Washington. He said that they didn't quite have enough range yet for completing 50 miles at high speeds.
  19. Lotta Throttle

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    I didn't realize that. I guess the regenerative braking helps battery life while in the trails whereas less braking (highway) drains the battery more quickly?
  20. dentvet

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    the battery is 5,8 kWH capacity. at a constant 50hp output the battery would last 9.4 minutes.

    if you can ride 4 hours singletrack per charge it means that you are averaging 1.9 hp constant output during your ride.

    anyone want to check my math? sort of surprising otherwise
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