The Art of the Ride Report - Planning, Tips, Opinions, Discussion

Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by dave6253, Jul 3, 2010.

  1. dave6253

    dave6253 aka. dave62538675309

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    Excellent post RandyM. Video is something I've found I don't have much patience for. I don't normally like ride reports that only contain video, but sometimes video really compliments a report. It can make all the difference when the video is edited properly and isn't just a long boring ride through unchanging terrain. There are some talented videographers here and I'm sure we'll continue to see more reporters using it.
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  2. dave6253

    dave6253 aka. dave62538675309

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    That's very true. In fact I had forgotten his DSLR was broken until he mentioned it later. I think there are several reasons for his photos remaining so good:

    1. Antontrax is just really good. He could take great photos with a cell phone camera because he has a great eye for what looks good.

    2. He was still using a pretty good camera. I think he was using a Panasonic LX2, which is preferred by many photographers over other point-n-shoots because of the sensor size and manual controls.

    3. He follows the professional photographers rule of shooting many, many photos, but ONLY showing the absolute best. If your viewers only see your absolute best work they are tricked into thinking you are better than you are. At least that's the thinking, but I'll bet Antontrax took many really great photos on his trip we'll never see. I'm trying to learn to cull more, but I'm torn on the use of this technique for a ride report. If you are a professional shooter and every photo shown to the public must be worthy of your profile gallery, that's one thing. When trying to document the actual ride I'm not going to discard all of the midday photos taken in poor lighting, or the pics of a rough part of the trail, or my bike stuck in a mud hole, just because it isn't technically a great photograph. machinebuilder also mentioned this point,
    4. Antontrax was still post-processing his photos in Lightroom. Post-processing is something I thought I'd never do, but...
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  3. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    Excellent tip, I do the same thing.

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    I like a title that has nothing to do with the location, but remember to put enough info in your first line so the lazy(me) will get where you are going with a cursor hover. The title came to me over many days with a basic start to get me to actually write something down.

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    Sometimes titles come to me long before I leave home and I save those in notepad on my computer to be used later if they somehow fit into what happened.

    I met a great song writer once and I asked what a certain lyric was in one of his songs. He answered that it could be whatever I wanted as he mumbles some lyrics on purpose..in other words leave a little mystery. Leave some mystery in your story..be truthful even if you're a scofflaw like me, but leave enough mystery that people ask you questions as forums are for discussion..this isn't a blog.

    I'm far from a photographer, but I remember the basics..rule of thirds and shoot from dark to light and I get by. I do very little post editing as I take 3-400 pictures per day and it takes too much time to edit.

    That's all I've got.

    :dunno
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  4. dave6253

    dave6253 aka. dave62538675309

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    That's really good stuff John!:thumb But honestly, you could have stopped at "a hot single female who rides". :lol3 So do you have any tips on how I can disguise myself as a hot single female for my next report? OH, and I need a name change!:lol3
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  5. JDowns

    JDowns Sounds good, let's go!

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    Hey Dave,

    At least you've got a couple hot bikes to ride and some photography skills. You are way ahead of me.

    I'm not too bright and can't take great photos, so will likely have to change my name and avatar. My next ride report will be titled: Juanita rides the Andes in a bikini. Look for it early next year. I'm hoping it goes viral.

    This thread is a hoot! Keep up the good work.

    Cheers,
    John Downs
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  6. thetourist

    thetourist Just passing thru

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    "Juanita, in the Andes" I can't wait.

    I picture a short stout woman with a black bowler hat, in a multicolor wool bikini. :lol3




    I use a recipe card spiral notebook for notes. The cardstock is less fragile than paper. I also wrap velcro around a pen and just stick it to the outside of my tank bag. Near the top of the map window is a good place. I do lose a few pens, but if it's handy it gets used more often.

    I note words that hit me, smells, thoughts, etc. In the morning I usually note the mileage, location, and weather.

    Some kind of paper roller would seem to be good also. I think Big Dog uses something based on an enduro roller.
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  7. JDowns

    JDowns Sounds good, let's go!

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    Hey thetourist,
    You had me laughing,


    Here is my teaser pic for next years ride report:

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    I will be carrying a cardstock notepad velcroed to my bikini. (great tip!)
    ATGATT is for weemps! Knobbies? WTF?

    Kindest regards,
    Juanita
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  8. Lone Rider

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    Rob,
    What language is this?














    :D
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  9. dave6253

    dave6253 aka. dave62538675309

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    Hey Larryboy! Did you steal your daughter's notebook?:smile6 I woulda turned that photo black and white.:dunno

    But seriously, thanks for joining in. Carrying a notebook is a good tip. I heard it before and followed the advice. Unfortunately, I'm terrible about actually using it. I thought I would try to keep a nice journal or diary to remember all the feely stuff, but just like in school, I'm terrible at taking notes. I still use it, but mostly for jotting down names of persons I meet, and to keep a running tally of fuel purchases and such non-emotional stuff.:loco I tend to rely on photos more to recall what happened. I like to snap a shot of the gps statistics screen at the end of the day and usually include this in the report. I think I picked this up from the MOBIUS report.

    I wish I had the writing skills, creativity, and courage to expose my emotions as well as Larryboy does.

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    I also learned how to create and save route maps as a JPEG and will probably write a step-by-step tutorial on how to do this.
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  10. Krashdragon

    Krashdragon Been here awhile

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    ..some kind of digital recorder...

    http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-POCKETRAK-2G-Pocket-Recorder?sku=241828

    or
    http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-POCKETRAK-2G-Pocket-Recorder?sku=241828
    (this one is limited to clearance, but it's an idea of what's available)

    ok, this may be a music store site, but they know recording!
    Notebooks are worthless cause you have to sit and write. With a portable recorder, you can sit and have an adult refreshment and muse over your day's wanderings without so much as lifting a pen! They're also small enuf to carry on a bike. And if there's company around, even ask if anyone remembers what all those little town's names are you rode thru and forgot...<G>
    Mary aka Krashdragon
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  11. RandyM

    RandyM Less talk, More ride

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    Good tips. I'll have to think about how to rig up a roller notebook. I keep forgetting road names, town names, and other little details on the trip, and it costs me a little time reviewing maps and gpx tracks to get all the details strait.

    Another thing that works well for me is geo-tagging photos. This is embedding GPS coordinates in the digital photo's data file. The usual method is to synchronize your camera's clock to your GPS clock and then to use software that scans the GPX file and matches the the photo's time to a location. Once I geo-tag my photos, do any post processing, and upload into smugmug, I can press the "Map This" button that displays the photos on a map. Example:
    http://maps.smugmug.com/?feedType=geoAlbum&Data=10861872_xQK7a

    Having the photos on a map helps out when wrting up the ride report. I'm less likely to get things out of order or assign the wrong photo to the wrong place. I mostly use google's gpicsync to geo-tag because it's free and it handles the .mrw files that my SLR puts out. There is plenty of information on the web and in the gps forums on geo-tagging so I won't cover it here. I will mention that you need to be careful if you process the photos in photoshop or other software because you may lose the GPS data or change the creation date depending on how you save changes.
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  12. JDowns

    JDowns Sounds good, let's go!

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    Boy! There's some good information here. I like the idea of a voice recorder. Although I would probably lose it.

    I also like the idea of taking pictures of things to trigger my memory later on.

    One thing that occurs to me is that yellow or orange text is VERY helpful in a ride report to seperate the OPs story from comments, for those reading a RR that don't want to read all the chaff.

    I am embarrassed to say that I don't know how this is accomplished.

    And yes, Dave, I would like a step-by-step guide on how to save routemaps as a jpeg to post maps on my next ride report.

    Cheers,
    John Downs
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    This works for me.
    Unless you're juggling more than one camera, all pics flow chronologically, and that greatly helps in recapturing the flow and what happened moving from place to place. It's a note-taker and a pic taker, all in one. :D

    The longer there is between the ride and the writing/posting, the more distant it becomes - emotions of-the-momemnt are lost, and perceptions do change over time. I think you lose what I'll term the Roller Coaster effect: the extereme highs and lows that the rider felt and could possibly relay.

    Splicing action with documentary is an art. I enjoy both, but when they're both having heated sex together, then you have something very special.

    Weird and unusual: Please tell me about it, and I want the details.

    Why was the trip special to you? Take the skin off....
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  14. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    I call it Lone Script. :lol3


    Yes, I stole my daughters notebook and gave you a little lesson in exposing yourself.:deal

    Recording myself talking doesn't interest me as I don't like the sound of my own voice. I have to stop for lunch and gas, it's easy to scribble down a few notes, I don't wait for the end of the day. Under ten days and I can remember what I want to share, more than that and I need to write it down.
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  15. dave6253

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    I agree Rob. Everyone I know already thinks I'm looney for going off on my motorcycle alone. The last thing I need to do is start talking to myself.:loco But an audio recorder probably works well for some and could serve a dual purpose if you wanted to include a sound file in the RR.
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  16. dave6253

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    I'm not sure how other photo hosting sites work, but in smugmug, even when you are shooting with more than one camera, you can "sort" an entire gallery by "date and time taken" in the "arrange" mode. This puts everything in chronological order assuming the date and times in your cameras match.
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  17. AlanCT

    AlanCT The Byronic Man

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    I'm heading out tomorrow for a few days of riding and camping in northern New England. I'll be bringing my Moleskine notebook and point 'n shoot camera to see what I can do with these suggestions.
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    I feel some people overreact in this department. The last thing I want to read about is how someone took this road then that road followed by such and such a highway blah blah blah. That kind of writing doesn't instill any emotion or remind me why I ride. I do however think it is important to remember these things but when I start writing for a RR I try and leave out as many road names as possible. I also do this with any other specific things like what resturant I ate at or names (somewhat hard to do depending on if your riding with someone). I do this so that the reader can unknowingly put himself (or herself) into my helmet, I try to make it so they feel like they have been on this ride before.

    Also, to me I really like the idea of writing all my thoughts down. It just seems more basic. You can go back and jot things down quickly or draw some sketch for whatever reason. Now a dedicated journal does take more room and it is always susceptable to water. I just feel like an old time explorer when I have my small leather bound journal, it feels more like something a real traveler would have :D
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  19. JDowns

    JDowns Sounds good, let's go!

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    I LOVE larryboy ride reports! That notebook is priceless. Imagine how cool it will be for your kids and grandkids to read that in 50 years. I know I was in awe reading my Dads journal of his days as a flyboy in WWII. And to imagine he was an 18 year old gunner flying at treetop level on straffing missions in the south Pacific, stories of cutting Japanese officers in two with his 50 caliber blazing, totally focused, with return machinegun fire blasting holes in his turret. Wondering if he would live until tomorrow. OMFG! It sends shivers up my back just trying to imagine what that must have been like. Makes my ride reports look like weak sauce. Who cares though? It's fun writing about one's adventures. And it's fun to read for years to come. For you, your friends, relatives and ADVriders around the world. These stories will likely be hanging out in cyberspace long after we're gone.

    From your handwriting I assume you are a physician (just kidding). Your ride reports are poetry in motion. Keep up the good work!

    Best,
    John Downs
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  20. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    Thanks, John!!

    I really should convert all of my reports to print as computers crash and websites come/go.

    My wife kept a journal that she wrote in every day for about the first four years of our daughters life. She was on a kick at that time with journals, she was haunting antique stores buying journals from times long past. So, I had a little push to journal about this one..I had a really hard time getting started, but then wrote six pages in one sitting.

    I wrote a short story with art work as a kid and won the overall at the county fair, I think it's still in a display case somewhere. I was in advanced writing classes in middle school where we explored the greats, Poe being my favorite as he could lead me down the dark path to surprise.

    I'm very thankful that Baldy has provided this site for us as I probably never would have written a single word without this outlet.
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