The Art of the Ride Report - Planning, Tips, Opinions, Discussion

Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by dave6253, Jul 3, 2010.

  1. damasovi

    damasovi Long timer

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    to all who have written here, i just want to say thank you for all the information.

    yeah some of us don't write well since English is not our mother language and there for have to translate and then make it sound "american or british" so it translate not just the words but also the meaning of the idea, keep that in mind since grammar is a challange when changing from one language to another.

    and yes, keep it coming!!
  2. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    I have NO problem with those who aren't native English-speakers. Personally, I think it's great that they're trying. It's those of us who ARE native English speakers who should know better. :)

    Rob
  3. damasovi

    damasovi Long timer

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    i did not mention but THANK YOU for the link, I know it may not be approve by the royal academy of English language BUT still something good to have

    damasovi
  4. dave6253

    dave6253 aka. dave62538675309

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    I've worried about this as well. What if I wake up one day and advrider is no more, or all of the old RRs have been deleted. How would I go on living?:lol3 More importantly, I could never read my own RRs someday while in my rocking chair in some nursing home.

    I backed up a few pages to my own computer in the past, but haven't done so in years. I'm gonna start doing this again, just in case, though I'm sure the advrider/smugmug servers are much safer than my own PC.

    To save a page to your own computer using Internet Explorer, click PAGE, SAVE AS, and select the file type and the folder you wish to archive it in. This will save the page (not just a link) so you could see your reports long after the internet is closed down...

    I'm not the most computer savvy. Does anyone know what file type works best for this type of function? Web Archive? HTML?
  5. chrome bandit

    chrome bandit Wide footed adventurer

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    Good question, a few ways to handle this:
    • Save all of your text reports to a Word or OneNote document before posting here. That way you can back-up as needed, or even print your own ride trip booklet on your own time without having to worry about web site availability.
    • There is a non-obvious method to capturing an entire ride report from ADV down to your pc in just a few steps...
      • at the top of this thread, look for the Thread Tools drop down menu, and select Show Printable Version
      • Look at the top right hand corner of the page, click on the link Show 100 posts from this thread on one page - that will chunk up the thread into big pages that you can save to Word or OneNote by using copy/paste or printing to a file.
      • I'm picking Word or OneNote on purpose then they can handle rich text and pictures side by side. Can't do that with a text file.
    Hope this helps a little...
  6. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    I don't recommend anybody try to write their ride reports here on the site. Over in another thread, a guy's regular posts keep getting eaten because his browser keeps crashing. I would suggest as others have, and write them in Word or something, then copy/paste here before posting.

    Another idea to save reports... do what chrome bandit said about getting 100 posts on the page but then go to File > Save As and save the page. The web browser, whichever one you use, will save all the images, HTML, everything from a given web page, so that you can view it offline. You'll have to step through each "page" of the report on the website (with 100 posts per) and do File > Save As, but that way it will render back exactly as it does now, online.

    Rob
  7. O'Ren

    O'Ren Been here awhile

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    Excellent thread, thanks for starting it and nurturing it !

    I thought I'd try to contribute as well :

    Most of us carry a smartphone/iPhone with us on rides. They can be used as notebooks as well, stocking photos with GPS coordinates (iPhone 4 does it by default) to help memorize a route or a particular event or to later on support the RR writing.

    If you have a phone that supports apps, do a bit of Googling before taking off: you might find some useful apps to support your RR. For example I'm preparing a trip for next month with my Pillionette and she found out that there are a few iPhone apps pretty useful to keep a "journal".

    The one that we'll probably use is Trip Journal :
    http://www.trip-journal.com/

    It allows you to track your route, save photos with comments and share all this via email, Twitter or Facebook, or simply publish it online on a website.

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    Good interface, very easy to use, and after testing it in the city, seems to be doing what we want it to.

    Other apps I find useful:

    Evernote: Can't live without it. Records any type of note, text or photo, and can be organized and tagged into "notebooks". I currently use it to keep track of the preparation phase of my trip, and to support my writing.

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    Dropbox: I use this app to store big document while on the go (passport scans, hotel confirmation slips etc..), but also books (Dropbox can open them in an ebook reader app like Stanza), photos or anything I want to share or have access to anywhere. They have 2Gigas available for the free account - more than enough to carry with me everywhere important documents and save new ones.

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    Another trick using the phone (I am only familiar with iPhones, but I bet Blackberrys and other Android/Windows phones have this feature as well) is the screenshot feature: on an iPhone, pressing the power button and the home button at the same time will take a screenshot of your screen and save it into your photo library.
    I find it useful on the road when I have access to 3G to record where I've been on a map: I load the Maps Apps, let it find my location with the little blue dot on, and click, i take a screenshot. I can later use it to retrace my steps, because each screenshot is in fact a photo - timestamped :)

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    These screenshots of maps can also be useful to prepare for a trip in an area where you don't have (or don't want to pay) data charges: the snapshots of the area of the map you want to have on you at all times, and you'll be able to look at the map without using your data plan.


    Some of these tips are more oriented towards the trip itself, but can be used later for the RR as well. I'm a believer in making technology work for us (read geek) and if you carry a smartphone, there's a good chance you have right there a huge resource to help you record your RR : it has a camera, a video camera, it can record audio files, it can record notes or email drafts, it can help you memorize places on maps, fun/special moments, all that just by reaching to your pocket. :)
  8. O'Ren

    O'Ren Been here awhile

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    Another tip for those who don't ride solo : surely you'll discuss over diner or breakfast the highlights of the previous day and recall with other riders / with your pillion the good and the bad of the past 24H. I find that to be a great way to find content for the RR. And sharing the riders reactions to a particular anecdote or event is even better for the RR.

    So if you find yourself without inspiration, or wonder what to start with and what to talk about, remember what you talked about during the breaks, at diner or breakfast essentially, and it'll help jog your memory and pick the good stuff :freaky
  9. dave6253

    dave6253 aka. dave62538675309

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    Thanks for the input Rob. I've heard the advice of writing the report with another program before, but I've only had a couple posts get lost. Although this can be very frustrating, I have no idea how to write a report in another program. Can someone provide some instructions for this, or at least post a link if this is explained elsewhere?

    I usually place the photos in the new post first, then decide what I want to write and where to place the text. Can you see the photos when composing in other programs or do you just see the link?
  10. dave6253

    dave6253 aka. dave62538675309

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    O'ren, Great Write-up!:clap I am probably the only person left without a smart-phone, but will surely need the tips someday.
    Smart-phones must be great for staying in touch with advrider while on the road. They are sure to change the medium of the Ride Report.
    I'd love to see an increase of creative reporting with phones. I just hope RRs with BIG PICS aren't discouraged
    by a growing population of inmates using tiny screens for reading advrider.
  11. O'Ren

    O'Ren Been here awhile

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    I don;t think a lot of people use their phones to actually read forums. This forum for example is compatible with a popular forum app on the iPhone that allows us to read it outside of safari, with an app made to enhance and facilitate the reading experience.

    But usually phone users will just browse or look for quick info, and leave the more consequent browsing and reading for when they are in front of a bigger screen - so no worries there :)
  12. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    Saw this the other day and forgot to answer...

    I'm going to try my first one using Blurb. It's cool because you can connect your photo hosting site straight to it, download their software to your computer, write the thing saving to your hard drive, upload and print when you're ready.

    I write my reports using Notepad in HTML, then copy/paste here when I'm ready. It's the easiest way I can think of and embedded videos are in HTML or some variation, I don't really understand that part, but it comes out the way I want.

    Blurb is geared towards selling your books, but I'm really just after something for those years when I'm in a state ward shoved in a corner mumbling about Death Valley as I clutch my books. :lol3
  13. Merfman

    Merfman Trustin' my cape...

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    Thanks for all the inputs from everyone! I think I've written 2 different RR's here and garnered a whopping 4 views and 1 comment so I definitely needed the education! I'm headed out to my very first biker rally this weekend so I will try to apply the lessons learned here!

    PS - I'm riding a Strom to a BMWOA rally, should be interesting....
  14. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    Well at least the response will be less violent than riding to Sturgis. :)

    Rob
  15. dave6253

    dave6253 aka. dave62538675309

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    Hi Larryboy. I used Blurb recently to put together a book of photos just to see what the print quality looked like. I was really impressed. The software was easy to use. I was able to easily import the photos straight from Smugmug. I ordered a single copy as a sample. It arrived about 1 week later and the print quality was really good. The price wasn't too bad for a one-off book. I'll probably put together a book for my son about our ride to the Grand Canyon and order us a couple copies.
  16. Alcan Rider

    Alcan Rider Frozen Fossil

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    Had to use Google to find this thread again, but enjoyed catching up with all the great comments, suggestions, and advice. While doing so, one thing that came to mind is the use of photo editing software. Being a <s>cheap</s> frugal KLR owner (redundant, I know) my method is to search the internet for freeware. Doing so brought me to Irfanview, a very simple, capable program that does everything many of the better software programs do, and it is constantly updated. Just an FYI for those who, like me, would rather spend their $$ on farkles.

    Now for a comment (perhaps already made somewhere in the thread) about titling your RR. With so many good, very interesting RRs, it is impossible to read them all, even spending 24 hour days attempting it. Most evenings (and any other time I can sneak away from responsibilities for a few minutes) it is my pleasure to peruse the first page or two of Ride Reports, looking for an interesting one, or one that I have been following. Over the years, it has been disappointing to discover how many very good ones were passed over using this method, merely because the title didn't pique sufficient interest. A couple of my own RRs have proven this to me, as titles that do not convey some idea of what the report covers are soon back on page 50. Imagine, if you will, how many readers Denis would have collected if, instead of "Father & Son take on the whole TAT" he had entitled it "A Slow Ride Down A Muddy Trail". :lol3 Okay, a bit far-fetched, but "to illustrate; exaggerate".

    Now back to those who have something really worthwhile to add. Great work, folks. :thumb
  17. crashmaster

    crashmaster ow, my balls!

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  18. swamp

    swamp U lie&yo'breff stank

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    lol yea thats pretty damn funny :D
  19. dave6253

    dave6253 aka. dave62538675309

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    Hi swamp.
    Your new report had me wanting more so I checked out all of your older stuff as well. Wow! If anyone following this thread wants a lesson in creativity and personal style check out swamp's reports.
  20. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    Oh, that's good to hear!!! I still haven't gotten to it, I always take on too many projects.



    :lol3

    I've been meaning to catch up with swamps latest report, I'll have to read it in December after this winters trips. I read the first page and it looks great!! I've even had several friends email me a link to it!!

    :beer