The big KTM 990 SMT thread -- riders check in w/ photo!

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Guy Jinbaiquerre, Feb 23, 2010.

  1. BetterByCab

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    In regards to contacting KTM Corporate, they were closed on Friday, so I'm waiting for a return call next week in regards to my tank situation above.
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    jnberr0 Been here awhile

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    Figured it's time for me to go ahead and check in. Picked up this 2010 a few weeks ago, and, well, it's pretty much as good as what everyone says. So, so balanced and way more comfortable than I imagined. Frankly, it kinda bums me out, because I usually shop for a new bike every year or two. But this thing...it's just too good. I can't really justify shopping for anything else, unless its in addition to SMT.

    And wow, do the Akra's sound good...

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  3. jnberr0

    jnberr0 Been here awhile

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    All that being said, I just test rode the 2017 Tuono Factory. My brain is still recalibrating itself. Maybe the SMT needs a buddy.

    How much are kidneys going for these days, anyway?
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    IMG_0518.JPG I should include a pic, since that's what this thread is about - bringing the bike home after a wet test ride
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  5. djtrik

    djtrik David Reusch Jr

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    The bike looks great jnberr0. Congrats! Those Akros really do look sweet...

    Those Tuonos do look like a sweet ass hooligan bike. They also compete against the SD 1290 and around here they're going for REALLY cheap - new and used. A friend of mine just sent me a pic of one at a dealer that had it marked down to $14,700 USD.

    BetterByCab - I don't see anything damage. WTH happened?
  6. BetterByCab

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    djtrik:
    It's very difficult to photo, but there are deformities along the left side of the tank, near the KTM logo. There are bumps, and the decals are bubbling and lifting below the paint's clearcoat. I believe the issue is related to the Ethanol laden gasoline we have around here. My hope is that KTM will replace the tank, and I can move on with fill-ups from gas stations that still sell Ethanol-free fuel. Fingers crossed!
    I've gotten in touch with KTM Corporate, and they suggested a visit to a dealer to inspect the areas I'm concerned with. That will be my next step, but I'm planning on doing the 4600 mile service before taking it to one of the local dealers.
    I will update here with my progress.
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  7. Smithers167

    Smithers167 Been here awhile

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    BetterBuyCab where are you located in Washington? I'm up in Bellingham. Mt. Baker motorsports replaced my gas cap because of ethanol swelling. Didn't take very long but that is definitely a common problem. I've heard of people getting tanks replaced up to 5 years after the bike was bought. I'm bummed to hear that it is happening on your 2013.
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    Smithers167 Been here awhile

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    Also, if you guys are interested check out my YouTube channel for some poorly edited riding videos. I'm slowly working on footage from my west coast trip last fall.
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    "deformities along the left side of the tank, near the KTM logo. There are bumps, and the decals are bubbling and lifting below the paint's clearcoat."

    that is happening to my 2013 but paint and decals are still OK. I'm barely able to put the tank cover panels back on. I suspect I'll have to replace the tank some day.

    38k miles
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    Hey Smithers-
    I'm in Renton.
    My closest dealers are I-90 Motorsports in Issaquah and Hinshaw's in Auburn. I don't think Hinshaw's has been a KTM dealer for very long though, I may have better luck with I-90, since I've bought some motorcycles there before. We shall see.
    I'm encouraged by your report of your dealer in Mt. Baker doing a gas cap replacement, I have the same gas cap issue, and the previous owner also did some home-brew type shaving on the plastic to get the cap to fit better, although it is still slightly difficult to pull and replace. I would hope that the dealer would also do that as well as inspect and mark my tank for replacement by KTM.
    Also, I appreciate your posts here Smithers, you've added valuable insight about ownership of this particular machine - Thanks.

    fast4d-
    My main worry is that pulling the tank for any kind of maintenance underneath might lead to a difficult situation, maybe like what you are facing with yours. If I'm able to get some positive results, maybe you will be able to do the same where you are and get your tank replaced by KTM.

    I want to get the oil changed tomorrow morning, then have a ride out to Issaquah to have I-90 Motorsports have a look and see what they think can be done. If I don't like the answer, then it's off to Auburn to see what the shop has to say about my issues at Hinshaw's. Once I have some news, I will keep anyone who's interested informed via this thread.

    Here's a pic after cleaning it up from the trip back from Oregon:

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    Mine was that clean....once. Nice bike!
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    I had the tank off for the last two weeks for a valve adjustment and head fastener retorque. what's important is two mounting bolt holes still line up.

    the side panels I can slot the holes a little.
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    My dad and I both have an SMT (mine's white, his is the black with orange frame) and we both have issues with the gas cap. I've learned how to twist it around and pop it out but it's a struggle to fit my panels on and my tank actually leaks gas from one of the mount holes but only when I have the panel removed. I guess the pressure of the bolt keeps the seal tight when I have it assembled. I figured I had no hope on this. You've got me thinking I may have a chance to get this fixed.

    Question is - will the new gas tank have the same warping issues or did they actaully fix it?
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    I think the culprit is the Ethanol in our gasoline. I don't believe that the tank will be any different from what's on the bike now.
    But, once the tank is replaced, we can be selective about what fuel is put in the bike, using a fuel stabilizer, draining the tank during periods of low use, and maybe there's even some type of tank lining that can be applied.
    Im off to at least 2 local dealers to have mine inspected, but with the leak once a bolt is removed, I think your in a fine position to have a tank replacement happen on KTM's dime, due to the major safety issue that your potentially facing. Doesn't cost anything to investigate. I would make contact with KTM Corporate and see where you end up!
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    djtrik David Reusch Jr

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    It's going to be nearly impossible to avoid ethanol gas around here. It's always hit or miss and many of our gas stations say it "may" contain up to 10% ethanol. Would a fuel stabilizer help with this?
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    I-90 is where I bought mine from. It was the last 2012 in the state. I was actually on my way over to Spokane to visit family and test a 2010 when I got a call that it sold. So went to the dealership. They let me test ride it. The rest is history haha.

    I thought the ethanol issue for the tank was limited to the early years and was fixed for the later years of the bike but maybe not. The tank Is made by acerbis so you think they would know about ethanol.

    The gas cap thing shouldn't be an issue. If your local dealer says they can't then call corporate office and give then info on the dealer. Some dealers just don't like to work with warranty hoops. KTM knows about the issue with the tanks and caps. If all else fails cjdesigns sells replacement cap assemblies that remove the locking cap and put on an old style screw on. Same design as the 690 enduro. Might be my route after the next cap fails.
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    Smithers167 Been here awhile

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    Since spring us here and everyone is dusting off those bikes, what mods do you have planned, or long trips are planned this year?

    I'm thinking of getting an airbox this year and having it returned in Seattle, also finally getting rid of those squeaky brakes by replacing pads.
    Trip wise I'm only looking into a few small weekends like heading to Banff and Vancouver island.
  18. BetterByCab

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    Try this link out, maybe there's a place near your location

    http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=KY
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    Short update on my tank situation:
    I was able to get to the dealer in Issaquah (I-90 Motorsports) and they snapped some pics and said they would forward them along to KTM. The person I spoke with said that this issue was unusual, and I countered him by saying "but not unheard of" in regards to the tank being replaced. He was able to inform me that my bike was out of its 2 year warranty period. I said it was my hope that KTM would be willing to handle this particular issue of the tank deformity and swollen gas cap despite my bike having an expired warranty, as a matter of good customer service.
    At the minimum, the ball is rolling, and I will be in touch with the representative I spoke with sometime next week. I will update the story as it develops.
  20. jnberr0

    jnberr0 Been here awhile

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    Ok, guys, I'm toying with the idea of removing my Akra baffles, just to see how loud it really is. Question is: does simply removing the baffles open things up enough to warrant a new tune? My bike has the standard Akrapovic tune and no other air mods (sas still intact, air box stock, etc.) and seems to run really well as is. Not looking to screw anything up. Just more curious about the sound and maybe a bit of free performance than anything.