THE BIGWHEEL THREAD!!! Yamaha BW350, BW200

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Mr. BigWheel, Feb 4, 2011.

  1. DEAVER

    DEAVER Been here awhile

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  2. Cliff h

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  3. Mr. BigWheel

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    That is indeed an interesting specimen:

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    The modern BW conversion gives our good ol' 350s and 200s a run for their money in every category.

    Much better suspension, far better brakes, a better (but more complicated) motor, way better parts support, better tire selection, a carb that works and aftermarket companies that have actually heard of the bike.

    The only thing that it lacks is a side stand.

    The KDX conversion currently on ebay is another study in How To Improve the Breed:

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    It has an XR400 fork, a 4 wheeler shock, a Tecate 3 triple clamp, a BW200 swing arm and a Suzuki front caliper.

    It is only $2,500 but lacks a side stand as well as an airbox. It looks a little goofy with the shorter swing arm but would probably smoke the average 350. It weighs less than the 426, which weighs a lot less than the BW200 and 350. For me, that would be enough of an excuse to pick up either one.

    I wish Cliff would stop bringing these back to my attention. I'm only human. What am I supposed to do?
  4. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    BUY one, duh! Then proceed to thrash it in the great state of Alaska. And post video evidence of said thrashing.
  5. Cliff h

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    We've got a new project: trash my new snowbike. The bike is in storage at a friends house for the next couple of weeks. I will get some pics when I can. Video to come in the months to follow.
  6. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    UGh. I want one sooo bad...
  7. BWSwamper

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    Given that the combined knowledge, skills, and enthusiasm of the inmates of this board equal at least those of one slightly below average Japanese engineer, couldn't we sketch out a common kit for the greater good?

    Looking at the parts lists, the WRs share swingarms and triple clamps over several (not necessarily logical) year and model combinations. Perhaps the 2007-2013 range where both have the new style frames and share a common swingarm and triple clamps.

    I'm thinking the conversion base bikes would need to be old enough that the prices were reasonable, but new enough that the support could be expected for several years.

    Alternatively, we could send another well worded and heartfelt letter to the head of project development at Yamaha, but Google Translate only goes so far.
  8. Shercoman

    Shercoman Been here awhile

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    Both of those bikes look like nicely done conversions.I would love to have that Yamaha.

    The fact that they remain unsold does not speak well for the market need for these.

    If I had a WR I would seriously consider converting it but outside of our small group here,most two wheeler guys look down their collective noses at these things.
    When I show up at a ride with my 400 they just snicker....until I am right with them at the end of the trail.
  9. wingnut racer

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    went through some really rocky trails with a friend on his KDX200 (great bikes by the way) and at the end of a particularly brutal section he pulled up next to me and said (with a touch of admiration) "That thing's a tractor, it pulls through anything". I'm going to see if I can find a class to enter it in in a Vintage National series at OVRP Dirt Oval. I want to run it in a TT class just so I can see :eek1
  10. Mr. BigWheel

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    wingnut racer,

    If you race the BW then there must be some sort of trophy, award or endowment to recognize the magnificence of the accomplishment. Do it for the rest of us. Do it for the advancement of the the Mighty BigWheel. Just do it.



    As far as the conversions are concerned: I think Shercoman and BWSwamper have salient points. However, I think the reason that the YZ426 hasn't sold yet is that it is not a 450. It is over a decade old, no longer manufactured and has a reputation for hard starting characteristics. It looks awesome, but every time I think about shipping a $1,500-$2,000 bike 2,500 miles to AK the numbers don't add up. I really just want the kit. If that was on a YZ250, I don't think I would have hesitated for a second, even though the costs would have been the same.

    BWSwamper's idea of a kit that fits a range of late model bikes has serious merit. The conversion company has gone a long way towards making a universal kit by offering to continue selling the axles and triple clamps. It would be up to us to come up with the swingarm to fit and the model range to aim for.

    But Shercoman is correct. There is a very limited audience for these bikes, as evidenced by the two conversions' continued presence on ebay at VERY reasonable prices.

    Although, I still stare at them nearly every hour of the day. My resistance is crumbling...
  11. dorkpunch

    dorkpunch Oops...

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    Tell you what. You pay for a couple of plane tickets, and get it plated, and I will RIDE it to Alaska for you.:deal
  12. Mr. BigWheel

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    Before you agree to that, if I were you, I would demand a license plate, plane tickets and some padded shorts.

    Phoenix to Anchorage is almost 3,700 miles. Whooeee! That's a lot of blisters in the wrong places.
  13. dorkpunch

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    You can get me a flight from here to Phoenix for about $60... :norton Padded shorts might be nice but I *do* ride an LC4 640...
  14. Mr. BigWheel

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    $60??!!! Do they let you sit on the inside?

    I had a '99 640 Adventure until about five years ago. I never had to go to Home Depot to use their paint shaker when I had that bike.
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  17. Mr. BigWheel

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    $2,500 was the final price. The first time it was listed, the price was $3,000 with no takers.

    I'm surprised that it lasted as long as it did at $2,500. From the pictures, it looked like it was really nicely done.

    Somebody got a good deal, I suspect.
  18. Röhrich

    Röhrich big wheel freak

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    Hi People,

    After a very busy vacation I finaly got my rear swingarm back.
    Its extended now for the 25 rear wheel.
    So there wouldn´t be any problems with the german Tüv.
    I also got my domino handlebars and other stuff, so there is much to do.
    The only bad thing was the first start of the Bw200 ( I powdercoatet my exhaust:huh ), So after the first start it looked like a volkano:wings
    Here some pictures of the rear swingarm.

    Regards,

    Röhrich

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  19. Röhrich

    Röhrich big wheel freak

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    Hi People,

    After a very busy vacation I finaly got my rear swingarm back.
    Its extended now for the 25 rear wheel.
    So there wouldn´t be any problems with the german Tüv.
    I also got my domino handlebars and other stuff, so there is much to do.
    The only bad thing was the first start of the Bw200 ( I powdercoatet my exhaust:huh ), So after the first start it looked like a volkano:wings
    Here some pictures of the rear swingarm.

    Regards,

    Röhrich

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  20. BWSwamper

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    Röhrich,

    It's good to get your update. Nice swingarm modification.

    What brand of handlebar light switches are those?