The Bivouac (general rallye raid news)

Discussion in 'Racing' started by PackMule, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. Patrol

    Patrol VALE 46!

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2008
    Oddometer:
    1,366
    Location:
    Little Mogadishu, Canada
    Cyril is still with Red Bull. Red Bull working with Husky? Seems unlikely. Still think he's trading two wheels for four. He's had a couple of medium-severity crashes as of late and has a new baby girl at home. Maybe Mrs Despres has motivated him to switch to slightly safer 4 wheeling.
  2. Pilbara

    Pilbara In the flow...

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Oddometer:
    1,579
    Location:
    In the f'in city
    Helder has always to my knowledge raced with a low profile and very small crew. Their previous efforts with great results were done from a van and a quickshade. He may not like the big team concept and may have got his way on this one?

    Good luck to him!
    Cheers
    Pilbara
  3. escuchamente

    escuchamente Let's Ride

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2006
    Oddometer:
    492
    Location:
    Bay Area
    http://world.honda.com/Dakar/video/20130328/index.html

    Interesting insight into their PR message. I seem to recall JC having to wait for spare parts from a Hummer to continue his race so the statement "...all three riders got minor problems but didn't stop their machine," (2:45) seems misleading.
  4. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2004
    Oddometer:
    23,980
    Location:
    Off Piste
    Not so sure, the way I read it, knowing it's a Japanese to English translation is that "didn't stop their machine" is meant to say that none of the bike problems cause someone to retire from the rally completely.
  5. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2004
    Oddometer:
    23,980
    Location:
    Off Piste
    Helder confirmed to Chavo that HRC has pretty much moved nearly all resources to the development of the new bike. They sent his 2013 bike to Portugal and pretty much told him he can do whatever he wants to it.
  6. rmhrc628

    rmhrc628 Long timer

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,704
    Location:
    The high country VIC
    Any new pics of the bike ?
  7. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2004
    Oddometer:
    23,980
    Location:
    Off Piste
    Helders current bike or the new HRC bike? Helder has some pics up via facebook but I don't think we'll see the new bike for some time yet.
  8. Martino

    Martino Adventurer

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2003
    Oddometer:
    57
    Location:
    Tallinn, Estonia
    It's true that Speedbrain owns all the rights but both Husqvarna and BMW rally bikes are very different from G450X enduro bike. G450X ran PDS, Husqvarna and rally bikes rally are using linkage in suspension.
    Actually BMW/Speedbrain used a small and virtually unknown subcontractor to fix issues with G450X frame for Juha Salminen few years ago (everybody remembers how Knighter left BMW with a bang). For that purpose they manufactured 5-10 different frames which by the end of the season brought Salminen some victories in EWC already. The very same subcontractor manufactured frames for last year's Dakar bikes. It's true that design of these rally frames is based on 'Salminen' G450X frame but incorporates linkage and support for huge rear subframe-mounted tank. This year's Dakar bikes used evolution of these frames manufactured by Speedbrain itself.
    So in fact Speedbrain frames have practically nothing to do with standard G450X frames. Different geometry entirely.
    By the way - that small subcontractor devised and manufactures a device which became pretty popular among Advrider users recently. So for us here it is not so unknown anymore but owner of that little workshop still prefers to fly below the radar visibility range - so don't ask me :)
  9. rmhrc628

    rmhrc628 Long timer

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,704
    Location:
    The high country VIC
    Sorry the new bike.

    Any news on changes? (Safety improvements ...:) )
  10. Flood

    Flood F5lood.

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2005
    Oddometer:
    10,161
    Location:
    Austria
    HRC are telling me there will be an announcement about the 2013 team some time after Abu Dhabi.

    :lurk
  11. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2004
    Oddometer:
    23,980
    Location:
    Off Piste
    :ear
  12. vander

    vander full-time dreamer

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2007
    Oddometer:
    918
    Location:
    Barcelona
    The new thumper of Joan Barreda.

    More cc anyone?

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
  13. Stagehand

    Stagehand Imperfectionist

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Oddometer:
    27,365
    Location:
    Shawangunks
    The new baby girl at home is a very practical consideration. And also, speaking from a carreer/ego standpoint, with five Dakar wins is it possible to outdo himself? It would seem that to stand down from the sharpe edge without having been slain by it yet would be a very good strategic move. Perhaps thats why I'm not Cyril The Great, though :D
  14. Flood

    Flood F5lood.

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2005
    Oddometer:
    10,161
    Location:
    Austria
    That's all I know. At least they're saying anything.
  15. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Gone a bit Baja

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2007
    Oddometer:
    4,654
    Location:
    Somewhere west of Laramie...
    A good point... however, Peterhansel has Six...

    Jx
  16. wingnut11

    wingnut11 generally strange

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2009
    Oddometer:
    748
    Location:
    Twin cities mn
    Now I'm no rally expert, but I think this is an often overlooked and undervalued point. Especially for those who think Cyril is switching to 4 wheels. If was betting I'd bet he doesn't switch to cars until he has two more Dakar wins. Yep, two! I said it. I think he wants that record for himself. Seriously why would he make the switch now? It doesn't make any sense especially when he only needs one to tie that record.
  17. Osnabrock

    Osnabrock Ditch GPS

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2008
    Oddometer:
    241
    Location:
    Como, MPLS
    I have a question.
    What's the 450cc pioneer David Fretigne doing these days. I know he was slated to be on the Husky team is years past but things have been quiet since injury.
    I miss his presence.
    Anyone have news?
  18. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2004
    Oddometer:
    23,980
    Location:
    Off Piste
    He started the 2013 Dakar and retired after a pretty lackluster performance.
  19. Jadon

    Jadon Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2009
    Oddometer:
    136
  20. Dread Pendragon

    Dread Pendragon throttle to the donk

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,574
    Location:
    Logan, Utah
    Tweet from Jago Pickering:

    "Dakar Rally: Frontline to Finish Line ITV4

    A new two part documentary is about to hit our TV screens. Starting on Wednesday 24th and finishing on Friday 26th of this month, Dakar Rally: Frontline to Finish Line will be on ITV4 at 9PM."


    I wonder if it would be possible to get a url to stream this event via vlc media player. And, you know, watch a little snooker between shows maybe.