The Bivouac (general rallye raid news)

Discussion in 'Racing' started by PackMule, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5ool

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    Quite right Jen...

    I read that article (had not seen it previously) and as you say... it (vaguely) makes the implication that the current VW spec Toureg (which conforms to all the existing FIA general prescriptions for the 2010 cross country regs) will not however comply for the 2011 season regs (whatever they may be?). It also indicates that the BMW X-raid vehichles and the JMB Stradale Mitsubishi's do though...? (seem's strange).

    I will have to find a draft of the proposed 2011 FIA tech reg's to see what the deal is... I guess.

    What baffles me is the article reference to "homework" done by the BMW and Mitsubishi teams...? While I'm in no doubt that Mr Quandt has his finger on the pulse of what the FIA may or may not have planned for eventual "tech rule changes" for the 2011 season and on...

    the new Mitsubishi Lancer raid project has (was) pretty much developed over the 2008/09 season in preparation for their "ill fated" 2009 Dakar attempt (first time Mitsu had a T1 diesel as an outright contender). Then when the factory pulled out officially of Dakar and cross country racing as part of the economic downscaling of it's motorsport program... The cars and material were then purchased by the JMB Stradale outfit in time to launch a four car effort at Dakar THIS year (2010)... and they did a fine "privateer" job... albeit with the older generation petrol mV6 powerplants... not the GDI diesels originally developed for the Raid Lancer...

    Looking into the 2011 FIA season crystal ball; have the new "privateer" JMB Stardale outfit just "magically" come across a formula that fits in to the 2011 FIA rule changes (with no factory pushing and shoving)... and the factory boys at VW been caught napping...? or is the marathon rallye article just a(nother) "beat up"???

    See... KTM and the FIM are'nt the only ones who play "politics" with each other... :rofl
  2. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Gone a bit Baja

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    I agree the situation is interesting... I must say, it's a hollow victory for VW if they don't feel able to compete with Mitsubishi in 'African' conditions?

    I recall the Robbie Gordon said in a post event interview he'd be back next year "but with a whole new car"... I imagine the hunking Hummer doesn't meet the new regs either (or it's just a bit sh!t...?! x)

    J xx
  3. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    I think Robby Gordon was referring to having an all wheel drive car next year to help him on the "wrc" type days of the race and not in reference to new regs, or that's the impression I got anyways.
  4. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Gone a bit Baja

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    Flippin' eck! I didn't realise that brute was only rear wheel drive - perhaps it's not so sh!t after all then! No wonder he got stuck in the sand (and shouted at a few reporters), but still a mighty impressive result for a 'ute'!

    J xx
  5. Flood

    Flood F5lood.

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    I talked to Kevin Heath at the Central Europe in '08, which was even more WRC-ey than Argentina; he said they had no chance against the VWs and other 4x4s when it came to powering out of tight corners. Gordon was probably hoping for even more open desert stages than they had this year. For a Argentina/Chile Dakar, he needs a 4x4.
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    fetid_swamp Been here awhile

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    although a polarising figure himslef, i'd hate to see them swap back to a conventional 4wd type setup.
    just like in the other classes, the more varied the machines the better, i reckon.
    viva la difference

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    skibum69 slave to gravity

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    hummers still suck:lol3
  8. SafariBerg

    SafariBerg Oz Safari Addict

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    yeah they ran them at Dos Sertoes in 2009 and cleaned up
  9. CBVRacing

    CBVRacing CBVRacing

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    well... if the bikes are going to be 450cc for a more even competition, i think the car category should follow suit where everyone is on 4x2 and 2L engines.

    Wot??? isn't this going to bring an even field, lower the cost of competition in this tough market and help other competitors beat the multi-million dollars camps?

    :wink:
  10. Linc

    Linc Been here awhile

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    Hummer is no longer an option for RG as GM have dropped the brand all together. He owns a sponsor driven "company" and will race whatever his sponsor pays him to race.

    His Hummers this year were an evolution of his previous efforts; lighter & narrower. I expect his next effort to be an expansion of that program.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see him in a similarly spec'd Chevy (or Toyota) of some sort as his Hummers really are just custom buggys with body on top.


    Linc
  11. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5ool

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    Has JLS got you on the payroll now CBV...???!!! :huh :lol3
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    Lol, RG in a Toyota?!?! And sorry to disagree on another point but he certainly won't be just driving what his sponsors want him to drive.


  13. troy safari carpente

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  14. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Gone a bit Baja

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    "That's enough cars (Pick up trucks!)" - Ed.

    I thought those of you who followed me on Heroes-Legend last year might like to see a few more photos of the Tenere in action? - so I've started another thread here:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12355747#post12355747

    I'm just downloading a few more photos of the other competitors etc.

    J xx
  15. CBVRacing

    CBVRacing CBVRacing

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  16. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Gone a bit Baja

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    Oooooooooh - that will coincide nicely with me having bought a new bike!

    (will I wish I'd gone for an EFi machine?! - we'll have to see...)

    J xx
  17. Bluebull2007

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    Whats an EFi machine? :ear
  18. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Gone a bit Baja

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    Hey Bluebull -

    [Electronic] Fuel Injection... rather than a carb which most enduro bikes still use... including the bike [machine] I've just bought...

    EFi automatically adjusts the fueling for different altitudes, whereas a bike jetted for sea level will start to struggle over 10,000ft for example...

    J xx
  19. Linc

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    ummmm........he drives a Toyota in NASCAR; why not Dakar?
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    hey Jenn, what are you entering next?