The BMW HP2 Megamoto thread.

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Joe Bar, Sep 27, 2008.

  1. GSMarc

    GSMarc Long timer

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    I cannot dismount my tank to weight it, I don't know.
    I was speaking about the tools which are with the bike, pratically nothing in fact.
    You should contact Markus to the answers to your questions.
    http://www.gs-equipment.de/

    When installed :

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  2. air-cooled

    air-cooled Been here awhile

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    for all you "empty your tank complete before fuelling", i was riding close to Paris (France) on one of the main roads, complying with the speed limit, sort of, when i was passing a fuel station with still 40 km to go. No problem, next one will be the next stop to fuel. so i thought. with still 8km in the tank the next fuel station came up, state of the art and completely new, really France. But i didn't work. next station in the village was out of service. some kind person brought us back to a working station, but this was still the state of the art first station and that one didn't work the second time either, not only for me but also for the locals as well. On the nav the next place was 6km and there was a gasstation, up we go. 2km to go and up a steep hill to the gasstation, it would be too easy if that one did work or was open, neither offcourse. computer now said 0km. this was my first time with zero and i did not know how far it would take me before shutting down, so engine off and rolling down the hill going to a station which i had seen on the way to this place. so with -5km and further no problems at all i could refill and continue, but lesson learned; even in a crowded and busy environment it's possible to have some misfortune with fuel stations.
  3. hawideri

    hawideri Adventurer

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    :) oke, I admit it. Had a similair experience before I did my pre-test :shog
  4. GSMarc

    GSMarc Long timer

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    Does the ASC can be added on a MM with ABS ? :ear

    Thank you :clap
  5. bikecat

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    GSMarc, I think you have to make sure that the ZFE can handle that too.

    Cheers
  6. Tony_W

    Tony_W Blue Mountain Jedi

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    Ok - did it. The K12R is gone and (almost) forgotten.

    The MM is just awesome. It rides even better now that I own it. Completely different (obviously) - just a hoot to ride. Strangely I find myself breaking more speed limits on the HP2 that the K12...

    Now all I have to do is spend a gloriously sunny weekend tweaking the bouncy bits...
  7. ViperJustin

    ViperJustin Retired HH60G Gunner

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    Congratulations! The MM is a really special bike. I test rode a GS a couple weeks ago and it just didn't make me giddy. The only other bike I've ever ridden that makes me giddy is the HP2 Sport.
  8. Dockstrada

    Dockstrada Been here awhile

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    So I currently ride an F800gs and was toying with the idea of a HP2.
    Is the HP2 Megamoto the same bike as the Enduro with street fitout and are they up to the same Job as the Enduro, e:g suspension travel . They look like the same bike .Is it going to be a better off-road option that the F800gs.

    So how do I make one of these
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    look like one of these
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  9. hillbillypolack

    hillbillypolack Grumpy Old Goat

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    ^ you dont. Apples and oranges, amigo.

    The HP2e was offered with motard wheels, but isn't an MM by any stretch. Same frame, different fork and shock specs, different wheel sets.
  10. GSMarc

    GSMarc Long timer

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    different speedo, engines, gearbox, brakes etc :norton
  11. bikecat

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    For the looks only ... :

    1. Changing the side panels (compatible), you retain the top panel
    2. Adopting the instrument dashholder, headlights, beak from the HP2E
    3. If you cannot reuse the MM's under-headlight oil cooler, then you need to get a HP2E side oil cooler (not so efficient)
    4. You need to run new brake lines for the front to tidy up the lines, install fork guards from the HP2E
    5. You will want to retain the dual brake discs of the MM for greater stopping
    6. Get a HP2E cover for the seat
    7. I suggest keep the MM's rear Ohlins.

    Be aware that the MM and E are essentially 2 different bikes:

    1. wheels - (thinner) spoked (21 x 2.5, 17 x 4.5) versus (sporty) cast (17 x 3.5, 17 x 5.0 or 5.5 width) MM's can adopt spoked wheels with enough time and money
    2. MM has a tacho, E doesn't
    3. MM's forks have shorter travel, and has rebound adjustments on the top and compression on the base. I think the E has rebound and compression in separate forks
    4. Counterbalancer in MM, purportedly smoother
    5. I suspect that the HP2E's lower seat is the same as the stock MM's seat.
    6. The MM makes slightly more HP but I think more than enough
    7. Differences in exhausts, sidestand

    Welcome :freaky

    My own question, I am contemplating the ROX risers or the TT risers ... anyone installed these on the MM?

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    Cheers
  12. Dockstrada

    Dockstrada Been here awhile

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    Had a look on the net seems to be verry little diference between them , apart from the 21' front wheel which may account for the a bit of rake .
    <TABLE border=1 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=580 align=left><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2></TH></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Model:</TD><TD>BMW HP2 Enduro</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Year:</TD><TD>2006</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Category:</TD><TD>Enduro / offroad</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rating:</TD><TD>73.2 out of 100. Show full rating and compare with other bikes</TD></TR><TR><TH colSpan=2>Engine and transmission</TH></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Displacement:</TD><TD>1170.00 ccm (71.39 cubic inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Engine type:</TD><TD>Twin, four-stroke</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Power:</TD><TD>103.25 HP (75.4 kW)) @ 7000 RPM</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Torque:</TD><TD>115.00 Nm (11.7 kgf-m or 84.8 ft.lbs) @ 5500 RPM</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Compression:</TD><TD>11.0:1</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Bore x stroke:</TD><TD>101.0 x 73.0 mm (4.0 x 2.9 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Valves per cylinder:</TD><TD>4</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Fuel system:</TD><TD>Injection. Electronic intake pipe injection/digital engine management: BMS-K with overrun fuel cut-off, dual ignition</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Fuel control:</TD><TD>SOHC</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Cooling system:</TD><TD>Oil & air</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Gearbox:</TD><TD>6-speed</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Transmission type,
    final drive:


    </TD><TD>Shaft drive (cardan)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Clutch:</TD><TD>Single-disc dry clutch, hydraulically operated</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Fuel consumption:</TD><TD>4.10 litres/100 km (24.4 km/l or 57.37 mpg)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Greenhouse gases:</TD><TD>95.1 CO<SUB>2</SUB> g/km. (CO2 - Carbon dioxide emission) </TD></TR><TR><TH colSpan=2>Chassis, suspension, brakes and wheels</TH></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Frame type:</TD><TD>Tubular steel space frame</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rake (fork angle):</TD><TD>29.5°</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Trail:</TD><TD>127 mm (5.0 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Front suspension:</TD><TD>WAD upside-down front fork, Ø 45 mm , compression damping adjustable in two ranges, rebound damping adjustable</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Front suspension travel:</TD><TD>270 mm (10.6 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rear suspension:</TD><TD>Forged aluminium single-sided swinging arm with BMW Motorrad Paralever</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rear suspension travel:</TD><TD>250 mm (9.8 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Front tyre dimensions:</TD><TD>90/90-21 </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rear tyre dimensions:</TD><TD>140/80-17 </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Front brakes:</TD><TD>Double disc</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rear brakes:</TD><TD>Double disc</TD></TR><TR><TH colSpan=2>Physical measures and capacities</TH></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Dry weight:</TD><TD>175.0 kg (385.8 pounds)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Weight incl. oil, gas, etc:</TD><TD>195.0 kg (429.9 pounds)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Power/weight ratio:</TD><TD>0.5900 HP/kg</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Seat height:</TD><TD>920 mm (36.2 inches) If adjustable, lowest setting.</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Overall height:</TD><TD>1,266 mm (49.8 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Overall length:</TD><TD>2,350 mm (92.5 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Overall width:</TD><TD>880 mm (34.6 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Wheelbase:</TD><TD>1,610 mm (63.4 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Fuel capacity:</TD><TD>13.00 litres (3.43 gallons)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE border=1 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=580 align=left><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2></TH></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Model:</TD><TD>BMW HP2 Megamoto</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Year:</TD><TD>2008</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Category:</TD><TD>Super motard</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rating:</TD><TD>72.4 out of 100. Show full rating and compare with other bikes</TD></TR><TR><TH colSpan=2>Engine and transmission</TH></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Displacement:</TD><TD>1170.00 ccm (71.39 cubic inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Engine type:</TD><TD>Two cylinder boxer, two-stroke</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Compression:</TD><TD>12.0:1</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Bore x stroke:</TD><TD>101.0 x 73.0 mm (4.0 x 2.9 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Valves per cylinder:</TD><TD>4</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Fuel system:</TD><TD>Injection. Electronic intake pipe injection/BMS-K digital engine management with overrun fuel cut-off, twin-spark ignition</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Fuel control:</TD><TD>SOHC</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Cooling system:</TD><TD>Oil & air</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Gearbox:</TD><TD>6-speed</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Transmission type,
    final drive:


    </TD><TD>Shaft drive (cardan)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Clutch:</TD><TD>Single dry plate clutch, hydraulically operated</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Fuel consumption:</TD><TD>4.10 litres/100 km (24.4 km/l or 57.37 mpg)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Greenhouse gases:</TD><TD>95.1 CO<SUB>2</SUB> g/km. (CO2 - Carbon dioxide emission) </TD></TR><TR><TH colSpan=2>Chassis, suspension, brakes and wheels</TH></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Frame type:</TD><TD>Tubular steel space frame</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rake (fork angle):</TD><TD>32.5°</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Trail:</TD><TD>157 mm (6.2 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Front suspension:</TD><TD>WAD upside-down front fork, Ø 45 mm, compression damping continuously adjustable in two ranges, rebound damping adjustable</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Front suspension travel:</TD><TD>270 mm (10.6 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rear suspension:</TD><TD>Forged aluminium single-sided swinging arm with BMW Motorrad Paralever</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rear suspension travel:</TD><TD>250 mm (9.8 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Front tyre dimensions:</TD><TD>120/70-ZR17 </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rear tyre dimensions:</TD><TD>180/55-ZR17 </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Front brakes:</TD><TD>Double disc</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Front brakes diameter:</TD><TD>320 mm (12.6 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rear brakes:</TD><TD>Single disc</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rear brakes diameter:</TD><TD>265 mm (10.4 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TH colSpan=2>Physical measures and capacities</TH></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Dry weight:</TD><TD>178.0 kg (392.4 pounds)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Weight incl. oil, gas, etc:</TD><TD>198.0 kg (436.5 pounds)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Seat height:</TD><TD>890 mm (35.0 inches) If adjustable, lowest setting.</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Overall length:</TD><TD>2,350 mm (92.5 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Wheelbase:</TD><TD>1,625 mm (64.0 inches)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Fuel capacity:</TD><TD>13.00 litres (3.43 gallons)</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Reserve fuel capacity:</TD><TD>2.00 litres (0.53 gallons)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
  13. Macroenie

    Macroenie Been here awhile

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    Megamoto two stroke? Which model is that? :lol3
  14. GSMarc

    GSMarc Long timer

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    @Docstrada
    If you think that all the truth is on internet, don't ask such question here... :D


    HP2E :
    <TABLE border=1 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=580 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Front brakes:</TD><TD>Double disc</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Rear brakes:</TD><TD>Double disc</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>




    :lol3:lol3

    Please, try to get serious info...
  15. bikecat

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    Docstrada,

    Perhaps the thing to do is to take a look at one in the flesh. Might be a good idea to also compare the owner's handbooks by BMW. I think the MM is more than good enough for fire-roads but to me it is not the enduro machine that the HP2E is designed to me, which it is in the hands of capable riders. The front suspension is the main difference (travel is different) but my understanding is that the HP2E's forks are often criticised and replaced with WP forks by the enduro chaps.

    Let us know your thoughts and see how we can help you to achieve the ride that you want.

    Cheers
  16. Tony_W

    Tony_W Blue Mountain Jedi

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    Thanks Marc.

    Looking into your suggestions there seems to be a couple of options on headers. Does anyone have experience with the Remus header (saw one on sale in the UK) or the Wunderlich sports header? I see wildly varying prices (especially from here in Australia) so it would be good to know if there are any defining features that I should take into account (build quality, finish, etc) .

    Also, on the Rapidbike EVO front - is there concensus on the best mapping unit? My local shop is a Dynojet dealer/tuner and unsurprisingly suggested a PowerCommander...

    Thanks again!
  17. GSMarc

    GSMarc Long timer

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    Hi Tony,
    I had first AROS because it fits perfectly on the original Akra.
    Remus will not and you will be obliged to change the can too with it.

    I have changed the header and can with full Remus now because I found the Akra too "big", too thick.
    Did that on the 2 HP2

    I'm sure Dynojet will also work perfectly if your local shop is a pro.

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  18. Macroenie

    Macroenie Been here awhile

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    I had Aros headers before I bought a full Akra system. They fit perfectly but like the original ones turn brownish after some time but can be restored to silver color with some TLC.

    My shop sold both Dynojet and RapidBike, he suggested RB as he claimed its cpu is faster and in general is a better product but I think there is only a marginal difference between them, if any, when both are properly tuned.
    With the Aros I did add that temperature related resistance thingy to let the engine run a little richer as the header will cause a leaner mixture otherwise.

    Another option you might want to look into is the Wunderlich Performance Controller (Power Controller) which is a derivative of the Techlusion R259 TFI units for earlier BMW motorcycles and is made by Techlusion (Dobeck) for Wunderlich. It is cheaper and basically does the same thing as RB or Dynojet but with less (but sufficient) precise control.
  19. Josephvman

    Josephvman I'm the Decider

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    What do you guys think a fair market price is for an ABS MM with a few thousand miles on the clock and virtually new condition?
  20. ViperJustin

    ViperJustin Retired HH60G Gunner

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    I'm guessing 14-15k. My dealer told me that MM resale values have been going up recently. Are you buying or selling?