The CRF1000L Africa Twin problem thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by twinrider, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. RuneMC

    RuneMC Adventurer

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    Follow-up. Bike waited a couple of weeks for 48K service and fast idle issue (a bit early for 48K svc as it is currently 45.3km, but I like to minimize the number of times it is in the repair shop).

    They evidently just cleared a number of error codes (approx 10) and it was OK.
    Errors included IA sensor, TP sensor,air temp sensor and even one that said "No DCT". So not sure what's up, but anyway it works just fine so far. I even feel the downshifts are a nuance gentler (the engine braking that is) but could be my mind playing tricks on me given the time I was without the bile.

    Anyway with respect to clearing such errors, that obviously limits and even discourages self-service on the bike, so certainly something to be aware of for "cost of ownership". Still, I'm relatively addicted to the sound, vibrations, handling and road presence/size of this bike. Had a CB1100RS loaner while mine was in the shop, and compared it has very few highlights, plus much too small for me.
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  2. Squily

    Squily Squily

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    Isn't it obvious? Even your bike says it wants to be a DCT... ;-)
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  3. Grump

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  4. RuneMC

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    It is the DCT model. Otherwise a fast idle would be less of a problem. With DCT there is a safety feature that blocks it going from N to D if the rpms are too high (somewhere above 1600 rpm apparently...)
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  5. Squily

    Squily Squily

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    oh silly me... don't know why I thought you had a manual
  6. HCmoto13

    HCmoto13 n00b

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    Hello I Bought a 2017 Africa twin amd immediately took it down continental divide trail from Banff Alberta to Mexico border. Bikes been almost flawless 17500km in 4months
    Twice I left it for 2 weeks and come back to find it is completely dead. Checked battery connections all tight. Dealer says it's normal use a battery tender. I don't have a plug in where I store it so not really a option. Is this normal or just cheap battery from Honda?

    And dealer installed sw-motech skid plate, it is very close and rubs on the exhaust at top front of the skid plate. Anyone else have this problem? I pulled it off to see if it's adjustable or could pace it away but don't see anything I can do. How close is your skidplate to the exhaust
    Thanks

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  7. joeywyn

    joeywyn n00b

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    Hi. Yep I had a sw motech bash plate put on as well and it is tight up against the pipes. Not too worried as it would take a hell of a whack to move it. My biggest problem is the high pitched noise that is reflected back up off the plate. My solution has been better ear plugs!


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  8. jmarleau

    jmarleau Been here awhile

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    I don't think the battery issue is normal. I have left my 2016 AT for many weeks at a time off the charger and it seems fine.

    As for the skid plate, I have noticed the same thing you did. I solved this by grinding the area that contacts the exhaust (on the inside) using a flap wheel on an angle grinder. It works but you need patients. My initial thought was to just space the skid plate out using spacers at the front bolts, but an inmate here reminded me that this plate must rest on the frame using those square rubber bumpers. So an impact would be transferred directly to the frame instead of the small mounting tabs.
  9. rigores

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    Good day. Having some issues with the tc and abs. I recently changed both from original tires to a tkc80 from and a shinko 805 rear. The front is the same but the rear is a 150/70B18. I know the B stands for bias ply, but a service person at a shop says the bias ply maybe affecting the 5x5 and abs. I am skepctical on this but am curious. Has any one else had issues after changing the tires or taking the wheels off? If so what did you do about it?
  10. Specularius

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    Have you checked the front wheel to insure it is on correctly? If reversed, you get the symptoms you are exhibiting.
  11. windowto

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    Also, make sure that the spacers on the rear are on the correct sides (right/left). Hint: the shop manual has it backwards;).
  12. Junglejeff1

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    Strait spacer goes on brake side of rear wheel.
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  13. rickh123

    rickh123 Been here awhile

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    Definitely it is NOT normal that battery is dead after 2 weeks, unless you left lights or some other accessories in the ON position.
  14. Junglejeff1

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    I
    Found that out the hard way.Lucky I did not warp my rear disc.Took them out to put tires on using my cheap harbor freight tire changer and used my Manuel because I did not notice which side they were on.Totally screwed up my tc and made the rear disc hit hard on slave cylinder.Could not make it 500 ft without my tc giving me a flashing code and not working.At least the default let me still use the rear brake.Such a easy mistake to make also.
  15. Drum Dog

    Drum Dog Been here awhile

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    I made the same mistake and this board and I think you straightened me out before I rode it. I couldn't believe the manual was wrong but it is.
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  16. craighkzn

    craighkzn Been here awhile

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    Quick question guys....started my bike this morning and had a strange idle issue..seemed to wander up & down between normal level and then up over 2000rpm, then back down...went away when warmed up....anyone else had this ?? Any solutions??
  17. ya(x2)

    ya(x2) Long timer

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    Hope you'll soon identify the cause. I'll check air filters + spark plugs but you probably did already.

    SM extract :
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  18. Motociclo

    Motociclo Without motion, nothing.

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    The idle is controlled by intake air control valve. Maybe sticking a bit. Check silly stuff by making sure throttle is closed.
    I have read about some Af twins that have had coolant temp sensor replaced also. It is important for fuel and idle control during warm up.
    Worth checking connections and silly things before delving to deep.
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  19. Backcountry Adv Moto

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    I've been reading the thread, and just wanted to add, I'm on my second stand. The first one bent when strapping the bike down in my tow hauler. Bike was straight up when strapped, but the side stand was left down with no wait on it. The bike bounced on the suspension and bent the stand on the Alaska highway. My second stand is now bent from coming down on a rock in southern Utah a few weeks ago. In my opinion it is weak and needs to be updated or modified.
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  20. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    In the first incident, sounds like the bike wasn't cinched down strongly enough and repeatedly bounced off the lowered stand. Not bent though normal usage.

    I'm trying to picture how the second bend happen. The stand was in the folded up position but slammed down on rocks while you were riding?
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