The CRF1000L Africa Twin problem thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by twinrider, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. neanderthal

    neanderthal globeriding wannabe

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    Sigh.


    Lets go through this again. We'll use your scenario with the bike on a trailer and it's pogo- ing onto the stand.

    If the stand is strengthened, it doesn't give, then forces are transferred where? Sump? Crankcase? That part breaks and you'd be here complaining. OK, that part gets strengthened, then those sames forces are transferred where? Ok, now that part is strengthened and now the forces are being transferred where? Fast forward to the end.

    Ok, we've strengthened everything that can be affected by forces acting on the sidestand. Now the bike weighs 600lbs. Now it needs stronger shocks. Stronger springs. Bigger brakes. A stronger frame. Now its 720lbs. Errbody complaining about it being a porker. And underpowered.

    And ... scene.
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  2. jyrays

    jyrays The Wanderer

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    Mine had "high idle" after maintenance, took it back and it was normal. Didn't ask what they did though :)
  3. craighkzn

    craighkzn Been here awhile

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    Started bike again twice from dead cold....Idles perfect...Strange, but issue is gone.....Maybe bad fuel....
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  4. Backcountry Adv Moto

    Backcountry Adv Moto n00b

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    Agreeed I didn't have the bike tied down as tight as I should. I was worried I'd blow fork seals from having it as squared as I did. Intraveled with the bike in the toybhauler for a year and did 30k miles and all 50 states so tying it down wasn't new to me. Also understand in a 45ft 5th wheel tow hauler everything in the rear is magnified dramatically on rough roads due to the placement of the triple axles on the trailer. Give kinda of a catapult affect. You would be surprised what gets tossed around on the Alaska highway lol! Second time, the stand was in the up position, and yes I came down off the side of a large rock and hung it forcing it to bend up and out. I know it's kinda a freak think, but I also ride the bike like a 450 DS so something like this this is bound to happen again. I just hope it doesn't happen again in baja in November when I head down to watch the 50th Anniversary race and ride to Cabo and back.
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  5. mcmann

    mcmann Motorcycle ADV enthusiast

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    Try the Soupys side stand:

    http://soupysperformance.com/honda/...adjustable-lowering-kickstand-side-stand.html

    Our BILLET Africa Twin CRF1000L (2016-2017) lowering kickstands use stainless steel hardware and are CNC machined from SOLID ALUMINUM. They are capable of stock length to 3 inches shorter and are the strongest, best looking on the market today!
    Product Code: K-123

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  6. Davidjohnson

    Davidjohnson Been here awhile

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    I kind of like the idea of the OEM stand being a sacrificial lamb. Keep one in your spares kit. lol
  7. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    Yup, freak thing. Might want to check out the sidestand McMann posted.
  8. michaeln

    michaeln What're YOU lookin' at?

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    The problem I see with that sidestand is that it can only be adjusted from stock to shorter. It can't go longer.

    My bike sagged so much under its own weight with the stock springs that the factory sidestand was calibrated for that so the bikes won't fall over in the showroom. When I put heavier springs on the shock and in the forks, the bike stood up so much higher that now the sidestand was too short, and the bike leaned over too far when it was on the stand.

    It could have used a side stand that was 1-1.5" longer, not shorter.
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  9. Squily

    Squily Squily

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    And every one seems to want/ go for bigger foot on the sidestand, yet that one is smaller... ????
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  10. michaeln

    michaeln What're YOU lookin' at?

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    Hadn't thought about that, Squily, good point.
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  11. Brokein2

    Brokein2 Been here awhile

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    The same company actually makes a larger foot for it that bolts on...

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  12. ya(x2)

    ya(x2) Long timer

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    You can read and clear ERROR CODES with this relatively cheap (and limited) tool : https://www.healtech-electronics.com/products/obd/
    Can be found at 149€ (original) or cheaper on Aliexpress.
    Downside : Runs only on a MS Windows computer. In 2017, they should think bluetooth / wifi / smartphone but well at least we do have a solution to check for errors at home or on the road.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-M...ic-tool-For-Honda-YAMAHA-SUZUKI-/251911003483

    Cheap solutions exist... ;)
  13. rigores

    rigores rigores

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    Yes. I've made sure the front wheel is on correctly. I'm thinking the spacers might be on wrong. I'll give it a try and get back to you.
  14. randallz2002

    randallz2002 n00b

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    Had my first issue with my 2017 dct. I was returning from a three day road trip and had stopped for a rest break. Started up and accelerated onto a major highway and was just about to merge into traffic when my engine quit-led screen blank. The bike rolled to a stop as i pulled off onto the shoulder. As i said the led screen was blank. I turned off the bike and attempted to restart. The screen lit up as normal and the bike started after the second try. Carefully i pulled away and the bike has not had another incident since. I know the dealer had installed a "plug for a battery saver" so i will pull the battery and check connections. Has anyone else had this issue?
  15. windowto

    windowto Long timer

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    Many had problems with battery ground cable not connected correctly. The battery is mounted in an unconventional manner and many techs are not familiar with it. The ground cable is connected to the frame with another bolt that is behind the battery box (out of view). I wouldn't be surprised if that's your issue
  16. Drif10

    Drif10 Accredited Jackass

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    Think I have a new one here.

    Cush drive rubbers. With time and mileage, a wear item, yes.

    But 20k kms and 7 months old? I don't think so.

    The rubbers themselves aren't loose, like when they're worn out. The rubber connecting piece is. Four of the five are broken, which makes it a real pain to reinstall the drive sprocket carrier, especially when you're on the road, a thousand clicks from home and have to swap a tire.

    Pics, of course:

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    In the last pic you can see where the round rub marks are, and the square ones. The squares match the broken loops that connect the two blocks.

    The broken loops aren't showing worn through wear marks though, only surface rubbing, so that doesn't appear to be the source of evil. The loops are just cracked off from each other, like they're dried out from age and heat.

    I expect to see this on older machines, or with a lot more mileage, to me that's normal. Seven month old machine with 20k kms (12k miles)? Nope.

    They're $56 Canuck for a new set, and I've ordered them because there's only two sets in stock in the country, but I am putting in a warranty claim. Just spoke to the dealer, he agrees that this is pretty clear.

    Guess I'll find out if Honda Canada thinks the same thing.
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  17. DCTFAN

    DCTFAN VIN# JH2SD0451GK000002 '16 CRF1000LD

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    Those could've been my photos. Same problem.
    I just leave the sprocket on whilst changing tire.
    Let us know if your claim goes thru.
    Yeah, I'm lazy. :)
  18. Squily

    Squily Squily

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    Same here on the cush rubbers, but is it really an issue?

    My old AT did the same, my Vara does the same...

    Just stick 'em back in. It doesn't affect performance, just a bit more work getting them in


    :confused
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  19. michaeln

    michaeln What're YOU lookin' at?

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    It has to be because the anodizing wore off.
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  20. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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