The CRF250L Owners thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by joec63, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. trainman

    trainman Been here awhile

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    You can buy a BMW 650 GS, and get the same thing, mine would stop running just like the Honda does. If I slowed down and shifted through the gears I would never have this problem, but slow down and hold the clutch in it might stall. I can say it probably happen once every 100 miles of riding and yes, it would fire right back up as if nothing had happened. It is a fuel injection problem on the BMW and the computer is telling the FI to shut down. BMW can't find a fix for it in its 12 years of production on their 650 single, but maybe Honda can. I don't think the Honda has a computer, but I'm sure it's probably has some sensor somewhere telling it the shutdown. Mine hasn't done it yet and let's hope Honda has a fix for it.

    John
  2. Harcomo

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    Well, looks like it is happening on bikes all around the world unfortunately. I have the Dobeck EJK on mine and a member said he had contacted Dobeck and they suggested resetting the idle switch point on the EJK controller. I did that to mine but have not ridden it since because of the cold weather. So....don't know if that will help but at any rate, it is happening just the same to totally stock bikes and it is an issue that Honda needs to address and implement a fix. Let us all know if you come up with anything and like you said, don't count on your dealer for any help with an issue like this as they will likely not have a clue. In the meantime, when you pull in the clutch and roll to a stop, keep giving it some throttle to keep the engine from idling down too low....maybe that will help for now.
  3. itrack

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    It only does it when you drop speed with the clutch in, say more than a 15mph drop. If you just let the engine slow you down it never happens.
  4. EEKAMOUSE

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    35 Nm =25lbft seems high and is that the same value for upper and lower fork pinch bolts
  5. lrgart

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    I am squirreling away my LRP funds and can't tell you how much fun it is seeing your videos and pictures! Wish St. Louis had a little more elevation to it, but I guess that means a road trip is in order!

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  6. CNDRAT

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    i have been checking out this thread (may be purchasing the Honda)..came across your post...Wow..Gobsmacked....Well Done Mr LR and Mrs LR :clap



  7. DirtyBlackIrish

    DirtyBlackIrish Been here awhile

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    Great pics and I love your movies you put up!!!! They are always an real enjoyment and make my day a little bit brighter. Thank you! :clap
  8. kiwi5

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    Good point, l have been ordered by the boss to take the CRF back out this weekend and to give it a bit of a thrashing to see if it happens again. The dealer (of course!) had no idea :D. I had so much fun on it last weekend that I can't wait for another blast :clap I have to say that it beats my old TTR250 hands down. Not sure if it is the lower center of gravity or whatever, but it feels far more controlled on loose gravel. We want to get up to the 1000k mark for the first service and only have about 300kms so far, so it looks like I'm going to have a sore ass by the time the weekends up. Seeing as I don't have to buy replacement tires I plan to thrash the rear tire as much as possible....:evil
  9. kiwi5

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    Wow, some of the best bike video I have ever seen- you guys are amazing. I want to set up our work bike with the same handlebar setup. What tires are you running on CRF?
  10. Lost Roadie

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    35 Nm (26 lbf-ft) for the top

    32 Nm (24 lbf-ft) for the bottom







    Thanks Kiwi!

    I'm nice and mellow now mate. :evil

    Go and put some more miles on it sounds like a good idea, the engine is still tight and who knows, maybe you don't have the stalling curse. Give the throttle a blip or two when rolling with the clutch in also seems logical. If after you get the first service done you have this problem then we'll know more. Not saying a bike should stall at all and want to know how it turns out, just wear the engine in and see how it goes. At least it's not the leave you stranded type problem.
    Good luck, and post some photos, I know you have some beautiful landscapes down there! I was there earlier this year working, a shame I didn't get to ride.
    We're currently running a D606 rear and Pirelli XCMH front, both working great on our hard rocky, sandy, dry terrain with some pavement thrown in.



    Nancy and I are glad you guys enjoy what we're doing, thank you for the kind words, it's a great bike and we're lucky enough to have awesome places to ride. Life is good in California.
  11. kiwi5

    kiwi5 Been here awhile

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    I just checked out the Lost website and will order my stickers ASAP! Last time I was in Death Valley was in 1984 (Operation Desert Eagle while in the US Army). We had WAY less fun than you guys :puke1 What tire pressures were you running? Did you go with rim-locks on the CRF? I'm not sure I'll put rim locks on both front and rear but the rear tire seems like a good plan.
  12. Lost Roadie

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    Right on thank you! Feel free to use the military discount, thank you for your service!


    Yes we have rim locks on both, but balance with spoke weights. Ran 17psi rear 20 psi front on that ride. Worked out well carrying a load and no bent rims, but Nancy's pretty light too. I watched her get pretty sideways many times and then the knobs dug in.

    Operation Desert Eagle while in the US Army, a boss who demands that you go ride, living in NZ... sounds like an interesting life you have.


    Cheers!
  13. kiwi5

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    I'll send you a PM with details! I'm still trying to figure out how to post photos, why is it so difficult? Apparently I have to go to another website, load the photos there...blah blah. Looks like I'll need to bring my IT staff in to help.
  14. Bob80

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    Good posts Kiwi5, and good description of the stalling issues. Exact same as I was/am experiencing. I'm down and out for riding till the spring (too cold here) so can't be of much help now in troubleshooting this stalling issue. I'm leaving it up to members like yourself and others in the sunny south to hopefully get er figured out...I for one, will greatly appreciate the answer/solution to this problem and read here frequently....good luck, keep us posted and thanks in advance!!
  15. SAPB

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    Mine stalls after backfiring, seems to happen on every ride. I've got the habit of blipping the throttle, on downshifting, so that the RPM is closer, causing less clutch wear. Always done that even in cars (never owned an automatic). Now that I'm noticing it, it's always backfiring/stallling during downshifting. Sometimes, I "bump" start it, snapping the clutch, instead of hitting the button. This is my 3rd bike with FI, had an SV that would backfire once in a blue moon, and a C14 has never stalled/backfired. Ironically, I chose the CRF over the Kawi KLX after watching someone take 10 minutes to get one running. Other than that problem, it's a keeper. Going in for 1st service any time, now, see what they say. 60 degrees here on Monday, and now it's snowing.
  16. Brandon805

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    Our license plates are damn near identical, cept I got the number of the beast haha. And yes, she's darling.
  17. Lost Roadie

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    Look back a few pages for some help with posting photos, or here:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=919





    I was poking around the service manual last night trying to see what you could check.

    Here's a couple things I found, though it's pretty in depth and it would be best for you to get a service manual to troubleshoot your stalling if it continues after your first inspection. I'm just touching the surface here.

    -intake air leak or top end problem
    -throttle operation and free play
    -IACV operation
    -Throttle position sensor could need to be reset
    -restricted fuel tank breather hose
    -deteriorated fuel
    -faulty MAP sensor




    One thing is for sure if it continues, you'll need to involve a dealer in order to check the ECU for fault codes, one of the prices we pay for having a high-tech bike.... there's just some things we can't troubleshoot without a computer hooked up to it.
    There's a variety of other things that could cause the stall, or low idle. 1450RPM is what it's supposed to be idling at.

    Seem like there's quite a few little service connectors a dealer would have, that people could make to help with the troubleshooting.

    Go ride it some more, get a service manual and let us know how it goes.

    Somewhere out there, there is a solution. I find it hard to believe dealers are clueless on this stalling thing, with all the resources and sharing of info between them. From looking around the manual though, it is very apparent there MANY things that can cause stalling and maybe there's just no one fix for everyone.

    That's why it's important to have a good relationship with your dealer, or choose a good dealer to buy the bike from...

    Glad our LRP is running good, a man could go crazy trying to figure this out.

    Good luck.
  18. SAPB

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    Glad our LRP is running good, a man or a woman could go crazy trying to figure this out.

    Fixed.
  19. Spud Rider

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    Here's a nice video which demonstrates some good, general tips for changing the drive chain and both sprockets. In particular, note the good information starting at the 4:29 time mark regarding the correct way to loosen and tighten the rear sprocket bolts for the CRF250L. :deal

    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ziwYEVclpJ4?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Spud :beer
  20. SugarDust

    SugarDust Kulia i ka nu'u

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    +1 :evil