The CRF250L Owners thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by joec63, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. SugarDust

    SugarDust Kulia i ka nu'u

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    I agree i'm 5'7" and have no problems with the standard height seat
  2. Wallachian Spikes

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    I was wondering about actual seat height. I'm not near ready to buy yet, just trying to get my wits togeather over which bike to get between the new CRF 250 L & a used/good deal KLX 250 SF.

    Just guessing that my daughter is 5.4 or 5.5 & she clearly takes after her dad with two wheeled demonstrations of cat like balance. :lol3 She needs more dirt time on her KLX 140 but, I'm sure she will soon be able to "one leg" a 250 safely.

    This will be a bike that Dad gets some seat time on & I'm thinking the Honda might put the biggest smile on my face. I'm sure a KLX 250 SF is still alot better than a sharp sick in the eye. :wink:
  3. gnath9

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    No need to lower it your supposed to .... Keep them feet on the pegs !!! :evil
  4. Rocket123

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    Waded through this thread over the last week or so phew


    I was looking for an inexpensive bike for knocking about London and always wanted an Enduro bike, but a bike with knobbly tyres just wouldn't cut it on the twisties.


    To rule it out of the running I took an extended test ride. On the very first corner the front end just dropped into the corner so fast I had to adjust my trajectory and such was the surprise coupled with a light snickety gear change and willing engine....God I was in motorbike heaven!


    I was confused and still am how a bike like this could turn and grip so well on knobbly tyres, and also so well in the wet. The OEM tyres seem great for the road. Could I live with those brakes though...... I'd tried locking the fronts on several occasions to no avail.


    I nailed the throttle for 3 hrs long over country lanes and dual carriageways to try and verify Honda's claimed 90mpg (uk) and was satisfied with the 70mpg I calculated (about 60 mpg US). I had to have one, my own LRP.:D


    That was a month back and now two weeks into ownership and 425 miles I'm loving it. I've rediscovered motorcycling in Southern England. Tight twisty wet and muddy country lanes give as much enjoyment as a trip to the fast open roads over the Welsh boarder.

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    I never really thought of going off road, but needed to get some street cred mud. However with absolutely zero off road experience and not wanting to tackle anything unmanageable and trash my brand new bike I watched some of the late Steve Svengarlie aka onelungwarrier's videos of green lanes (off road paths) in Southern England to know what to expect and which road to take.


    http://www.qwerf.com/greenlaning a brilliant resource.


    I'm now totally hooked riding off road, although I don't know whether I should be sitting, standing, braking or accelerating but I've not fallen off yet.


    I absolutely envy you guys in the states with the great outdoors on your door step. The pictures and videos you post look truly awesome. Its mud and puddles for me though.


    A couple of things
    UK LRPs come standard here with 2 years manufactures warranty plus 2 years roadside recovery.
    Bike costs circa 5000 USD
    Complete tool kit as per the owners manual
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    No spark arrestor in the exhaust.
    Most dealers here have the LRP in stock.
    Can't get a workshop manual in the UK. HelmInc will send me one for 195 USD!
    Can't get any tyres here either. Would have to import the D606s. Like to be corrected on this.
    Got on order the AXP skid plate.
    There seems to only be one other skid plate supplier to the UK
    http://www.ad-tekproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Honda-CRF250L-Skid-Plate-HS.html


    Rocket
  5. Ed@Ford

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    Rocket 123:
    You're in luck...the US model comes with 3 allen wrenches!
  6. kb7tgr

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    Three allen Wrenches?? I only got two, and a fuse puller as the manual states.
  7. gnath9

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  8. Lost Rider

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    Rocket, welcome to the club!


    Can't help you with tires, you might want to look in the regional forums thread and ask around about scoring some tires in the UK.
    Surely some other blokes have to ride dirt bikes on that island.

    Can your dealer order you the OEM service manual? PM me if you need help getting one mailed over. If you ever need a yank-friend to get it sorted and mail one over for actual cost I'd be happy to help out. $195?... Not likely.

    Some actually useful tools and a 2 year warranty? Lucky bastard.

    Cheers!


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  9. DirtyBlackIrish

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    I would have certainly paid the extra $500. :1drink
  10. kb7tgr

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    Does anyone actually know at what RPM the rev limiter comes to play.
  11. Rocket123

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    Lost Rider, thats a very kind offer regarding the workshop manual see pm.
    I've tried a couple of uk dealers but they can't get one. HelmInc say 49 USD for the manual, 30 USD handling, and 116 USD postage. :eek1

    I've been running the LRP on 98 Ron Super Unleaded ( I think thats equivalent to your 93-94) as I assumed it would add a little extra......but from reading this thread apparently I'm wasting my money.

    I would like to understand why if that could be explained. Is it because there is no knock sensor to adjust the timing, and in that case what is the ECU actually learning in its short and long term memory?

    I believe our fuel has 5% ethanol although the oil companies are particularly vague in giving any details. I am think that perhaps the 98 Ron might contain more than 5% to increase the Ron rating/knock point and I've read on here some of the issues you guys have encountered with ethanol. Perhaps I should swap to regular (95 Ron here).

    Rocket
  12. cat

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    hi Rocket, welcome! :)

    That's quite the success story - well done! :D

    Same in South Africa. They've extended that stuff from the cars to the bikes.
    It reminds me, i must go to the website and update my details; the emergency service.

    The service manual; HelmInc, $195... is that the price of the manual plus the shipping? USPS International Priority would be about $45~$50 to SA and Australia/NZ, should be a bit less for the UK.

    * Lost Rider, thanks for the offer! If HelmInc is ripping it off for the shipping...

    PS: That pricing of HelmInc is crazy. $116? Is that UPS or FedEx? Even USPS International Express could not be more than about $70.

    PPS: Such a crappy website.

    The tyres...why would there be a problem getting tyres in UK? Aren't they the usual dual-purpose sizes - 18", 21", on the smaller side?
  13. cat

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    I think use the normal 95 RON. That is all we get here in SA, 95 at the coast (<1200m) and 93 upcountry. And i think that is typical of most countries.

    PS: Owners Manual says unleaded 91 RON or higher.
  14. Ed@Ford

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    forgot about the fuse puller!
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    CRF's only also has the FSM back in stock as well, I got my tracking number yesterday, mine was on back order.

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  16. Ed@Ford

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    Rocket123:
    "Octane rating" is technically a RESISTANCE to self ignition....what most folks call knock, so premium fuel burns slightly lower than regular. Most folks with small displacement engines who like to rev them will see(feel) no value in premium...but if you ride like me, where I lug the hell out of the engine, you will feel better response and a "crispness" taking off in a higher than normal gear with a higher load....like an uphill grade. So if I know all my riding is pavement, use regular....if I'm going to be offroad, hilly stuff, premium is preferred. .So it's a personal preference

    For offroad tires that are US DOT legal (I assume you have similar tire legalities in the UK) look for pirelli scorpion tires...their front is generally better offroad than D606...but onroad with knobbies, keep the pressure higher than normal to prevent cupping of the knobs

    Regarding brakes, there has been plenty of commentary here regarding breaking in the brakes which seems to be an issue with the CRF so look for it. I'm willing to bet these bikes come with some sort of anti rust crap on the rotors that never gets cleaned off properly, since they travel around the world by container ship and are subject to salty sea air. I plan to go over my brakes with brake cleaner, and scuff the pads with 80 grit sandpaper before it rolls outa my garage.
  17. Rocket123

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    The Scorpion Pro DOT knobblie seems to be available here so I'll have a look. Kendas or D606s definitely not available. Are you saying that the Scorpions have better grip on tarmac than the D606s also?



    On further research the Michelin AC10s, Michelin Euduro 3/4s and the Mitas CO2s are popular in the UK, but I think they might be too off road focused for me as I don't want any less grip than the stock tires yield on tarmac if I can avoid it. Apparently the AC10 is shocking on a wet road.


    I think you are probably right about the anti rust protection on the discs as mine are really quite good now I've given them a decent work out, it was on the demo bike that they were appalling.


    Having real problems getting the AXP skid plate.


    http://fr.axp-racing.com/d33/Honda-CRF-250-L-Sabot-PHD-bienteot-disponible.html



    Emailed AXP France 3 weeks ago told me I had to contact the importer to buy one.


    Fair enough emailed the importer who sent me some pictures and tried to sell me a folding gear shifter and other engine bling, but said I had to buy this through the dealer where I bought the bike.


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    Spoke to the dealer who agreed to get me the skid plates at £119 (180 USD). A week past nothing arrived, so I phoned the dealer who said the importer hadn't sent the skid plate because the dealer didn't have an account with the importer and the dealer wouldn't set up and account for the sake of one skid plate.:ddog


    Went back to the importer who gave me a motocross shops telephone number. Phoned them - said there wasn't a skid plate made for the CRF250L. Ye what.


    Googled axp skid plate found another motorcross parts shop who listed the plate so immediately ordered it online- however my credit card payment was declined during the transaction followed by a phone call from my the bank querying the matter.


    Phoned the retailer who couldn't explain why the sale was declined, but said AXP had supplied them with 5 skid plates and they would mail me one out straight away. A week later nothings arrived, Arrhh.



    No wonder we're stuck in this f&&&ing recession.


    Rocket
  18. Avi8tor

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    OK Cat...here are your pics. Simple mount and they are tucked up out of harms way. I use them mainly for daytime conspicuity. On the way to work in the morning, while still dark, they just piss everybody off.


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  19. Ed@Ford

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    Rocket123:

    The Scorpion is NOT better on pavement than D606. Plus it is noisier. If they are available in appropriate sizes, Continental TKC 80's are slightly more offroad than what is stock, but for such an aggresive tread they are quiet and grippy on pavement. Shinko 705 is a nice tire, reasonably priced, but a little less offroad than stock. Pirelli MT21 used to be popular here and were decent offroad...are they an option?
  20. Ed@Ford

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    My CRF Service manual finally arrived...nearly 10 days for it to go the 20 miles from Helm to me. Whatever..got it...happy happy!