The CRF250L Owners thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by joec63, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. gnath9

    gnath9 Been here awhile

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    I wish ... to dang much snow and I have no room in the garage.
    The shock just showed up today but, it won't be long now !!!
  2. trainman

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    Could someone give me the website for the CRF250L, WR250R, and the KLX250S, latest comparison test. It was posted here, but I can't fine it and I've looked. It's the one where the Honda is picked best overall, I think it was 3-4 color pages. I want to send it to a friend who thinks his KLX250S is the best thing ever.

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  3. SAPB

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    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=20620546&postcount=1627
  4. gnath9

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  5. trainman

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    Thank guys, that's the one I was looking for, I will send both of them.

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  6. topping

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    Does anyone know where i can get a good replacement clutch plate kit for the CRF because i have managed to burn mine out and its slipping allot. :cry
  7. Lost Roadie

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    I just had the same thing happen earlier today, we're far from home and were in the middle of sand dunes when it started slipping.

    Loosening the clutch cable via the adjuster nuts both on the lever and on the cable below it have us enough grab to ride home I hope. I had recently checked the clutch play before this ride, apparently there is enough pad surface to use up the slack, then after loosening still make the bike rideable.

    I'll be interested in any info on replacement clutch plates too.


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  8. topping

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    Thanks LostRider i will keep an eye out for any information on a clutch kit, Im afraid my story is a bit of a stupid one to be honest. I had a fall and my HDB hand guards must of moved a bit and was not letting the clutch release all the way and i thought the clutch was burnt out. Anyway i managed to get home doing about 30mph without knowing this was the problem and by doing this i have royally cooked the clutch plates :(
  9. cat

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    :-/ Nasty....unpleasant.
    I suppose that means you need new clutch plates, the friction plates. The only kit i've seen is the the so-called Honda race kit, that includes the ECU and throttle body from the CBR250R...but basically, all you need is the rear clutch plate from the CBR-R to replace the "judder plate" on the CRF250L. I think it has stiffer springs, too, or else the springs in the kit are something else - and there are also the springs sold on ebay by someone in Thailand. If you compare the two on a parts list, you'll see what it is you need to order.
  10. cat

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    mm, that's kind of why i was thinking of handlebar with less pullback.
    I think the DRC footpegs have a -5mm option.....no, for the CRF250L there is only the standard/medium and the high +5mm.

    No, when you start stripping it, you see why it's so heavy. It's "built like a tank." So many steel brackets on the frame, the masses of stuff at the back, enclosing the tail light, and even those plastic pieces are a bit heavy. Although there are some light parts like the passenger footpegs.
  11. Charleston

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    I'm interested to hear what you guys with clutch issues learn. I had to increase the freeplay a couple of times to keep my clutch from slipping whenever I jumped on the gas on a good traction surface like pavement. It seems that some extra freeplay helps as long as the clutch will still fully disengage.
  12. Charleston

    Charleston Been here awhile

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    Has anyone installed a headlight modulator? I had to change my headlight bulb so while I had it apart I installed a modulator http://www.comagination.com/modBulb.htm. It works fine but the highbeam indicator now lights faintly when in low beam and lights completely on high beam. The modulator that I have was for an H7 bulb (2 prong) from my old BMW but I added a jumper for the 3rd prong (low beam) of the H4 bulb that the CRF250L uses. I don't see why it would affect the indicator light. Any Ideas?
  13. RockRacing

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    I adjusted my shifter up a spline as well and it gave me plenty of room for my Alpinestars.

    I have found a bike that won't allow you to do that; my wife's DR200. I ended up ordering a DR650 lever since it's about an inch longer and will hopefully have enough length to bend it around the case.

    If it works, I'll post the results in the DR200 thread.
  14. topping

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    I have placed an order for a new set of clutch plates with my dealer with a lead time of two days costing about £55 in the UK. I spoke to http://www.crfsonly.com/ and they said they can get them too.
  15. Lost Roadie

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    Clutch replacement DIY. :cry


    Long story short, a friend fried the clutch while learning how to ride off road and in sand.... luckily loosening up the clutch cable gave us just enough friction to get home from Death Valley, with the clutch slipping in high gears for the last 20 miles.

    After some research I found that EBC makes replacement friction pads and springs for the CRF250L, available locally direct from manufacturer but I have to place the order though this company, then pick up at warehouse:

    http://www.perfectbrakes.com


    Part # CK1313 for the friction plates and #CSK188 for the springs, which they say are 10% stiffer than OEM.
    The steel plates are looking fine and are not warped so I wont be replacing them.
    I'll be going by the warehouse to pick them up later today, $65 for plates, $10 for springs.


    Here's a DIY of getting the clutch apart, it's pretty straightforward and took me about a half hour to get it open.



    Drain oil, drain coolant through drain plug on intake, not much coolant will come out until you loosen the cap on the radiator, then it sprays out all over the place 2-3 feet out from the bike. :ear

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    Remove hose

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    disconnect clutch cable, I used a screwdriver to push the lever back to slide it out

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    Remove brake lever, kick plate, and brake switch bracket.


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    Remove bracket that holds clutch cable, then oil tube or whatchamacallit.

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    Remove bolts holding engine case on, in a crisscross patten, Rotate clutch lever counterclockwise to disengage lifter arm spindle while removing the cover.


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    Remove bolts holding clutch plates in crisscross fashion and then slide out clutch plates.


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    And for you folks who like to stress/obsess about keeping the LRP tip top, I found this screen hidden behind the cover with plenty of metal flakes and what looked like pieces of case sealant from the factory. I guess there's a pre filter in our bikes.


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    That's about all there is to it, replace it with new plates and in opposite order, if I find anything while putting it back together I'll edit this post. Don't forget to change the oil @ 600 miles just like when new, the contamination from bedding in the new clutch plates is one of the main reasons for that first oil change.



    -Finn
  16. Lost Roadie

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    Thanks!

    Honestly though I believe this failure was caused by inexperience and too much high revving, wrong gear while slipping the clutch. Brutal sand dune riding conditions with a rider who's never ridden in them.
    Few bikes will keep taking what I saw without breaking something IMO.
    If this failed under normal conditions I would agree and be exploring a warranty claim, but at least in this circumstance it was rider error that caused it for sure. There's a right way and a wrong way to use a clutch, high rev's in high gears and slipping the clutch isn't the way to do it.
    Live and learn, at least the replacement is easy and relatively cheap... just glad we were able to get it home 250+ miles, could have turned into a real PITA. :wink:
  17. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    I would imagine there is a gasket under that cover? Did you buy a new one or is the old one reusable? Looks like it would be good to check that screen early on and just makes sure its clear.

  18. Lost Roadie

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    The gasket stayed on the cover and didn't break, the cardboard/fiber kind, so I'll re reusing it.

    I haven't seen any mention of cleaning that screen as part of regular maintenance, maybe it's just there to catch the stuff from when they make the motor and will be fine with some debris in it.... dunno.
    Seems like if it was important to have fully cleaned they would mention it for service, can't hurt to clean it though if you like wrenching. There's no mention that I can find about it in the Honda service manual.
  19. Infidel707

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    I actually live 5 miles from a dune ohv area which I've been itching to go to, now I'm worried about these clutch issues. So far I've only played in the training pit as I didn't have a safety flag and wanted to avoid the 150 dollar fee. Now I got the flag and bracket (20 bucks for a piece of plastic!), though I'm questioning whether the flag will hold up on the 55 mph road there.

    Has anybody done any highways with 1/4" dune flags mounted? Maybe I should point the bracket at an angle backwards and just hope somebody doesnt come too close and break it at a stop?

    Even thought it was just in the training area, I can definitely see the disparity between first and second gear, they need to be a little closer together for offroad; I was either revving high in first or lugging low in second in the circular training pit.
  20. Rob.G

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    It'll be fine for a short time at 55.

    The problem with flags on bikes is they usually break when you fall, and you WILL fall. My friend's flag on his KLX started out 8' tall and ended up around 4' tall by the time we were done with our ride at Florence Dunes in Oregon. I was on my quad so I didn't have that problem. :)

    BTW, a paddle tire will do wonders for traction, even on a little 250. Check craigslist... I paid $25 for mine.

    Rob