The CRF250L Owners thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by joec63, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. Ed@Ford

    Ed@Ford Long timer

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    The Honda spark arrestor hasn't changed much since the early 80's. The "arrestor" is the fine mesh screen that you can see in Dirt699's second picture. The exhaust flows thru the screen, thru "windows" cut in the tube, then out the end. The version of Honda spark arrestor I am most familiar with is the Honda XR400R. The earliest model...like my '96 had a tube similar to the CRF, with very large windows (much bigger than the CRF). Then to quiet it more, there was a "pea shooter" stuffed into the tube after the "windows". Later models had smaller windows, and more restrictive "pea shooters" to meet stricter (lower dB) sound ratings. The size of the windows, the restriction of the mesh size, and the peashooter restriction can make the exhaust louder or quieter, and power is inversely proportional to restriction. The point I am getting to is, theoretically, redesigning the spark arrestor insert with bigger windows, and increasing the inside diameter of the tube may be a cheaper alternative to a whole new muffler to improve power. I redesigned the spark arrestor and peashooter on my XR400, and the power increase was very impressive, and inexpensive. Of course, there are other reasons to eliminate the ENTIRE CRF muffler because it is HEAVY, and there is the additional restriction of the catalyst buried in the muffler. Folks who cut a window in the Yamaha WR250R muffler to remove the catalyst report very significant increase in power. Finally, Rocky Mt ATV sells their Lexx slip on mufflers for many models, and is comparatively inexpensive ($199). It is a very popular exhaust for the cost conscious KLR650 owners. Unfortunately, there is nothing for the CRF...yet. So, bottom line is there may be alternatives to spending nearly $1K on an obnoxiously loud CRF aftermarket muffler.
  2. SugarDust

    SugarDust Kulia i ka nu'u

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    It's too bad that the FMF q4 for this bike is so loud (sounds like at the 96db limit they advertise) I have had Q2/4 slip ons in the past and they were significantly quieter than this seems to be. I applaud FMF for getting it to market and all their efforts at sound reduction, yet this is disappointing.
  3. Guerillah

    Guerillah Been here awhile

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    Most comfortable motorcycle seat i've ever been on, highly recommended. Install took about 30 minutes with an electric powered stapler, not very hard but may need a buddy to help out.
  4. hrcs90

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    Its not listed on there Dobeck Performance site, its on there Electronic Jet Kit site:
    http://electronicjetkit.com/DirtBike/viewproduct.asp?partnumber=9110028

    And they will ship to Thailand.:evil
  5. bellsmx

    bellsmx n00b

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    Hi guys, Just got myself a new CRF250L for trail riding in the winter here in the UK. Seem to be a popular bike around the world.
    I have just fitted a pair of billet aluminium footpegs onto it and a red/black gear lever. Great little trail bike and looking to get the fmf system for it soon to free up a bit more power.
  6. Lost Roadie

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    Another new CRF owner here! :clap


    I'm following you around here B1..... :deal

    When I first read about this bike I thought it would be the perfect bike for Nancy. Her will to get off the beaten path more and more on her 650GS has proven she needs a smaller bike. This one fits the bill perfectly.
    Our local dealer called me and said they had one just come in so we jumped on it and are very happy we did.


    She didn't waist much time getting it dirty and testing it out. I didn't waist any time taking/cutting parts off and swapping out other key parts from her GS.
    Day 1 of CRFL ownership she had a blast in the dirt, day 2 I installed ROX risers, ProTaper KX High bars, HDB guards, and heated grips, along with taking off all the decals, logos and unsightly DOT required reflectors, replacing them with reflective decals of mine. The handlebar setup was taken off her GS, since it will not be needed to fulfill all her desires in riding street and dirt any longer with the new kid in town. The stock bars had too much of a sweep and were a little low for standing up in the dirt for us, now it's just right.
    The install of the gear on the CRF took a little cutting, trimming, cable re-routing and a little more cutting. Overall was pretty straightforward and on day 3 riding on some singletrack trail proved to be time well spent, protecting her hands and the levers in the rocks. We also have HDB mirrors on order, got to get rid of those big things Honda put on it, they were the first thing to take a hit when the bike was dropped and won't last long without breaking something while Nancy continues to improve her dirt riding skills.


    There's a little more work to be done to get the CRF handling how I'd like, first off a Scott's steering damper. Talked to them on tuesday, they will have the CRF-L kit available before Xmas. :clap
    I also talked with my buddy at Bazzaz and am hoping to get the bike into them so they can develop a fuel control module for it real soon. We've had good experience with their module on other bikes and are looking forward to seeing what it can do for the CRF. Being able to switch maps on the fly with one for power and one for fuel economy will be sweet.

    Fuel tank.
    The stock range needs to be doubled for us, while it will get good milage I don't know what Honda was thinking with that little puny tank... like most manufactures I guess, hopefully there's an aftermarket tank out soon, until then 1.5 gallons in a MSR bag will have to do when we go get LOST far away from home. As long as she can go 200 miles to match my range, most of where we'll be riding will be covered.

    Some kind of engine guard is also on the list, but below the things mentioned above. Then some D606's should complete the bike and have it ready for the Death Valley and Baja rides we'll be doing this winter.
    So far she loves this bike with nothing but big smiles while riding it and I also have had some good fun on it too, it handles pretty darn good just as it is and looking forward to getting these few more things sorted to make it even better. Honda really got a lot of things just right with this bike.


    Here's a few various photos of the new bike, I can elaborate on the install if anyone cares. Might have already been covered in this long thread I haven't read all of.


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  7. Rjatr

    Rjatr Sideways Sid

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    Hi bellsmx, just picked mine up in the UK also, I am intending to enter some LDT's in the summer so am particularly interested in the exhaust/ airbox mods etc. Q4 looks good, trouble is,for the LDT's I think any exhaust would have to be road legal (less than 82DB's), sadly the Q4 is in the early 90's. I wonder if anyone on the thread can tell me if the UK model 250LD has the same emissions control as the ones in the states, as if not, this would obviously effect the use of any Power Commander type maps coming from there? Great bike, will definitely be doing some green laning as well.
  8. Wenty

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    Hows this bike ride on highways? I drive 30 miles to work each way just wondering what 60 mph feels like on this bike.

    Thanks. :wave
  9. Ed@Ford

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    LOST RIDER: Was the RH grip glued to the throttle sleeve?
  10. billfires

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    YYZ, thanks for the suggestion, I didn't know there was anything like that. Bill C
  11. goondock

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    i drive about the same distance and 60 seems to be no problem at all. two thumbs up. not a rocket ship but fun and does the job.
  12. Unclejimmy1

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    Guerllah. Did you do the mod yourself ,,, I am interested in how you modified the seat,,,and what type cushion materiall did you use. I have been on a couple of 300 plus, mile trips on my bike and the seat needs some help... I am thinking about putting a smaller sprocket on the front shaft. My next purchase will be the bolt on spare fuel tank...any suggestions,and a windshield ,,,,,I have a dual range heat roll for my electrics. Very nice bike, will be selling my KLR 650. this spring. Uncle jimmy:ear:ear
  13. Lost Roadie

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    No it is not glued on. I cut it off to find these nubs on here, nothing a dremel couldn't take care of. :evil
    Then the end needed to be cut off too.


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  14. Ed@Ford

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    Excellent...should be no sweat getting some Heaterz heated grips on there...
  15. Guerillah

    Guerillah Been here awhile

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    You buy the complete seat (minus the plastic pan) from seatconcepts.com . You remove your stock seat, rip the stock cushion material off of the seat (its glued), then all you're left with is the plastic pan. The foam cushion from seatconcepts is molded to accept this plastic pan. You will use spray adhesive to bond the pan and cushion together. Once that is complete, you stretch the seat cover over the cushion/pan and begin to staple the perimeter all the while ensuring its tight/stretched. Good luck!
  16. Ed@Ford

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    Copied from their FAQ page:
    Q: What installation options are there?
    A: We can install the foam and cover for you. You just need to send us your pan (you can send the whole seat also) and we will install the new foam and cover. This is an extra $20.00 fee, or you can install the foam and cover yourself. There are video clips on youtube on replacing seat covers and we plan to add a video soon. Another option is to take your seat and the new foam/cover to a local upholstery shop and have them install it for you.

    I'm considering one of their seats for my KLR 650....$20 for install? Sure enough...let a pro do it...!!!!
  17. bungie4

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    I picked up an electric stapler for this job along with a box of 1/4" staples. No go joe. The stapler is strong enough to mash the hell out of the staple, but the staples themselves are to flimsy and don't penetrate the plastic seat pan enough. They just bend.

    What kind of staples did you use exactly?
  18. Guerillah

    Guerillah Been here awhile

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    I went to my friends house to do the job since he had the tool, I just asked him and he said he has no idea what kind of staples we used - they were just what he had in his drawer, they were unboxed. We probably had about 25% of the staples fail to go through the first time - they would just bend and lay on top of the plastic. I suggest making sure you are shooting the staples parallel with the plastic, pushing down as hard as possible. If we weren't pushing down hard enough the staples would bend and not penetrate, just like you are experiencing. Sorry I can't find out the gauge we used!
  19. CRFSoCal

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    Hey Lost Rider. Would you happen to be located in Socal? I was looking at your pics and it looks like you ride near cleghorn ridge trail and the high desert area. Maybe even Glendora Mountain Road. I am Just curious since the terrain looks really familiar
  20. Lost Roadie

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    Yes I do, I live near Ojai. Those photos were on cherry creek rd and on the easy section of the Ortega Trail off of 33. :p3rry