The CRF250L Owners thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by joec63, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. Wargasm

    Wargasm Been here awhile

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    C'mon I see those Trials riders hoping gaps like that all the time on youtube, you can do it.
  2. Bake

    Bake adventurer

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    It is routine for tank makers to be well into the second year of a bikes availabilty before selling product. Tooling always expensive plus the pattern making before any injection mold can be designed. They like to know sales numbers for the first years supply to justify the significant development costs way in advance of any sales. There are usually 3-4 major players, and if the first guy hits a homerun, then others risked a lot of money for nothing. 2 dozen owners asking for a tank in a forum doesnt hurry anything. Doesnt hurt I guess but you see a bunch of " group buy" talk and " they told me in an email.." And no tanks for a year and a half.
    If you need extra fuel, I suggest you do a work around and figure on using that for a year, year and a half.
  3. G19Tony

    G19Tony Been here awhile

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    Agreed. I'd like to see a tank too. Until then, the Rotopax will do the job. Even then, unless it's a significant increase in fuel capacity, the Rotopax still may get the call.
  4. outdoornate65

    outdoornate65 Adventurer

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    What are the after-market seat options available so far?

    Sat on bike this morning at the shop and instantly knew what the first upgrade would be.

    Funny, I had discounted the Honda CRF230 from my short-list of bikes in my search for a 250 DS.

    Not sure how I missed the CRF250 in my initial research...anywho as I mentioned, I slung a stiff old leg over the bike this morning and really liked the feel/fit of the bike. I think it will be perfect for commuting to work and knocking around the back mountain roads. Price doesn't suck either. Imagine that bike will take me anywhere my old crusty ass decides to go.

    Thanks guys....
  5. Ed@Ford

    Ed@Ford Long timer

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  6. outdoornate65

    outdoornate65 Adventurer

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  7. Bake

    Bake adventurer

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    I'll post some pics of the top end disassembled later tonight.
  8. CRFSoCal

    CRFSoCal Adventurer

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    So I haven't been looking at how many miles I have put on the bike and I am over by 100 for the first servicing. Is that really bad. I received an estimate of $225 for the first servicing including all parts and labor. Is that high?
  9. bungie4

    bungie4 Frostback

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    I brought my CBR250R in for it's first service (valve check, all other maint. was done by me), oh, about... 4000km overdue.

    Dealer didn't care, they're more than happy to take my money.

    Better late than never. Oh, btw, no adjustment required.
  10. goondock

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    I paid $300 total, would have rather paid $225.
  11. Harcomo

    Harcomo Been here awhile

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    I believe my dealer quoted me about that same price for the valve clearance check and first oil and filter change.
  12. CRFSoCal

    CRFSoCal Adventurer

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    Sweet! I will have it done then asap. I have the oil, gasket and filter already. I wonder if that will cut the price a little.
  13. streaks77

    streaks77 Adventurer

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    All right, got it last night, installed... went out on a test ride just now and the butt dyno says "huge improvement!" Before, the front end would never have left the ground... I'm not saying it's effortless now, but it sure didn't take a lot of convincing :wink: I also feel the throttle response is much more instantaneous. And this is without the exhaust (which I'm still considering pending other reviews)... anyone tried with and without the exhaust that could give a comparison?
  14. Bksports88

    Bksports88 Adventurer

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    Does anyone have stock exhaust but with 13/43 sprocket gearing? Curious to see how well it is on the trails. Saving up for the performance kit right now so in time I will get it.
  15. SugarDust

    SugarDust Kulia i ka nu'u

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    I've got 13/42 w/the fuel controller (stock exhaust) and its so much better better - haven't been on the trails yet, but it tears up the dirts roads around here

    Check out Ramz web site
  16. Lucky62

    Lucky62 Dreamer Extraordinaire

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    Thanks for mentioning crfsonly, I guess I "missed the memo" on that site. Looks like they have some good bits for this machine. I'm also not familiar with the coyote you mentioned, and didn't see it on the website, although they did show the Giant Loop MoJavi Saddlebag in the 250L section......

    I just ordered a skid plate, the windshield brackets, and the Sequoia rack Sunday, but ordered them from TCI products. I'm hoping they will be here in a couple weeks. I have some old windshields off various bikes in the basement and hope to trim one down to fit. (yeah, this should be interesting) If anyone has tips on cutting a windshield I'm all ears.:ear

    I liked the Sequoia rack since I already have a pair of waterproof Ortlieb bags I used on my KLR, and it looks like I could tie just about anything to those racks. I've used Happy Trails aluminum bags on other bikes and like the capacity and the protection in a crash (of course I guess that could mess you up too) but when I hit a deer on my Vstrom those bags took most of the damage and saved my plastic. I'm hoping I won't hit another deer and think the soft bags will be good for carrying what I need.
  17. Bake

    Bake adventurer

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    Stock piston. This engine has about 200 miles.

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    Anti seize coating on the skirt

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    Valve cutaways on the stock piston

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    stock iron bore

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  18. Bake

    Bake adventurer

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    Cylinder head showing combustion chamber and valves. Intake are the large ones. Tiny little sparkplug

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    Pickle forks, cam journals

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    Shims are on top the valve stem, under the pickle fork. Forks uses large needle bearing as the roller that is pushed by the cam. Cams are single lobe, which lightens the rotating mass in the valve train.

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    A look down the intake ports, looking at the valve stems and guides. About average looking ports.

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    Oxygen sensor shown in the exhaust port

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  19. Bake

    Bake adventurer

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    Single lobe cams. The journals are very large, as long as there's good oil pressure, it's very unlikely these will ever score up and fail.

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    280cc big bore cylinder ready for installation

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    280cc big bore piston in place

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    We have the first new 280cc big bore kit installed.

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    Bill Blue is going to be testing the 280 kit for a bit, and is in development of the bigger kit.

    (my guess is it will be 300cc or more)

    Bill developed and has manufactured the Kawasaki 250 KLX351 kit for several years. His motorcycle experience goes well back to the '60's, he is involved in cycle restorations and our real passion, the smaller enduro bikes like the CRF250L.

    He says stay tuned for the testing of the big bore kits.
  20. Guerillah

    Guerillah Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the detailed pictures of the motor. Be sure to let us know how that big bore kit pans out. Was the stock cylinder bore just overbored for the extra 30cc?