The Dorsoduro Thread

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by Yooper-at-heart, Feb 4, 2010.

  1. Shepster

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    So some of you already know this, but I recently purchased a 2011 dorso 12...well she finally has around 1200 miles on her, so I figured now would be just as good of a time as any other time to replace the air filter with a free-flowing after market filter. So i placed an order for the DNA stage 2 air filter, pricey, but the 6+ HP gains seem to make it a justifiable bargain...regardless, in preparation to install this new filter, i was reading through the service manual and was shocked with what i was seeing and reading...it seems that the dorso 1200 requires you to remove the fuel tank completely in order to access the air filter! So i was kinda in disbelief and thought to myself, "no way"....I've had and still have several italian & euro beauties, duc 1098s, bmw s1000r, buell 1125cr, aprilia rsvr1000 just to name a few, and never had to completely remove the fuel tank to access the air filter...i think the duc 1098s was the most difficult to access the air filter and it still wasn't as bad as to what i'm reading/seeing in the dorso service manual...

    So with that said, i decided to do a dry run and tore the bitch down...fairly simple removing all the cladding and misc. parts...but when i attempted to raise the fuel tank on its pivot point, i noticed the tank has a very unique/different shape than what i've seen on other bikes...almost like it has a growth at the bottom of the tank, so the tank will not pivot at that point. Instead the fuel tank must be completely removed along with the bracket that sustains the pivot point!

    Can someone please confirm if i'm reading/seeing this correctly? Is there an easier way to access the air filter? Please any in sight to this would be greatly appreciated...I have no problems tearing down my bike(s), but i don't like doing un-neccessary work either...I would think that aprilia would make it easier to do a routine maintenance such as changing an air filter...
  3. mikejohn

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    I'd like to know more as well as I am planning to get a 750 Duro or a Street triple, leaning more to the Aprilia. Not to hijack this thread but what do you think of the SXV 5.5 as a go back and forth to work bike?:ear
  4. sagebrushocean

    sagebrushocean Harris's hawker

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    Is it a short commute? The SXV 5.5 has a 2gal tank, and is pretty maintenance-intensive. The small tank on the DD is also something of a liability if you have a long-ish commute.
  5. mikejohn

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    Starting to sound like this would be the wrong bike for what I want, sounds like having a super model G/F with a drug problem, high maintenance and you get to know the dealer very well:lol3
    Maybe a 750 Dorsoduro might be the way to go or just build my trans hawk
  6. High Country Herb

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    I just installed the DNA in my 750. I read online somewhere that my tank had to be removed, but it was possible to pivot the tank backwards. The key lock and related plastic had to be removed, and the rear mounts have to be removed, but the fuel line stayed connected. In the process, I smashed the hell out of my finger between the tank and frame mounting tab. :cry Oh well, I guess I'm still justifying that "Busted Knuckle Garage" sign on the wall.

    I didn't fell much horsepower gain (maybe 1-2 hp?), but I did see significant fuel mileage gains. My low fuel light now comes on at 115 miles, when it came on at 100 miles before the filter change. I averaged 48 mpg! That alone is worth the swap, in my opinion.

    I think the DD 750 is more like an Italian supermodel who only drinks espresso, but is very healthy (I haven't been back to the dealer for 1.5 years). I like the Street Triple :tb, but the Dorsoduro is probably a more versatile bike. It can go off road a bit, handles well, and has good passenger accomodations. The ST probably has more power then the 750 DD, though.
  7. High Country Herb

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    I am adding some storage to my DD, and would like to get the OEM tank cover and side bags. I cannot, however, afford to buy them new.

    Has anyone bought them? Want to sell them? Have another idea for adding bags to the sides of the fuel tank?

    What say you?

    Edit for update:
    I bought some tank panniers from Quad Boss, but they didn't fit right so I had to return them. Because of the shape of the DD fuel tank, they hung too far back, right where your knees go.

    I think I'm going to bite the bullet and buy the Aprilia bags new. They are about half price in the UK, so I'll spend the extra $40 to have them shipped over. AF1 wants $530 for the bags and cover! I can get all of it for 200 British Pounds (322 USD) in the UK. I'll give it a few more weeks to see if a used set pops up somewhere. Anyone?

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  8. NABRXX

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    I am in research mode regarding the DD1200..my current rides are a 2010 gs 800 as well as a 2009 kawi concourse...I lke em both but the beemer makes me laugh when I ride it,...just wish it had more juice.....enter the DD1200....keep posting any issues guys, we need to hear em....stay well all, great thread.
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    I think the DD1200 will accelerate better than either of your bikes, since it has about the same power as the Concours, but more than 200 lbs less weight. You could probably replace both bikes with this one.

    There would be compromises, though. The DD isn't going to be as good off road as the GS, even with the new TKC-80 now available in the right sizes. Luggage options are available, but not as varied as your other two bikes. Fuel tank range isn't as good as your bikes either. I have also heard people are beginning to have problems with fuel tank swelling due to ethanol fuel additives in the USA. Supposedly, that can be mitigated by using a fuel stabilizer additive, so there's another fluid you'll need to carry (unless you typically sell your bikes before they reach their 4th birthday).

    With some work, the DD can be a decent fire road adv bike, but you'll have to carry some extra fuel somewhere.

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  10. NABRXX

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    I like the setup of the bike in that last response. Sorry to hear of swelling gas tanks, but if that was an issue and I really loved the bike AND it was not plagued with mechanic bills...I would simply put a new one on. I am interested in the DD because after riding sportbikes and sport tourers for decades....it took the relatively tame GS800 to get me LAUGHING while I rode through the city...the DD looks like it could raise that theme to ne heights....i just want to be sure what I am getting into....we are all spoile with modern japanese and german bikes that nearly never leave us stranded...can the Italians carry the torch?.....yea or nea? Keep me posted guys!!!!!
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    From what I've seen (and I've seen a lot - living next door to Italy) - the short
    answer is no.

    But 1200 is non-existent on the streets here.
    Most issues I've seen have been on the 750 (and all other current Aprilia
    bikes).
  12. NABRXX

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    That's one for NO!! the Italians cannot deliver a reliable bike....anyone else out there with supporting or contrasting views? Anyone out there with a high mileage DD1200 to shut this guy down??
  13. High Country Herb

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    There probably aren't any high mileage 1200 DD's yet, since I think 2012 was their first year. Also, the short fuel range of the Dorsoduro tends to make the bike a short trip fun machine, rather than a long distance tourer. It will be a while before we see one with 80,000 miles like a BMW GS.

    While a few have reported starter relay issues with the Dorsoduro, my 750 has been pretty trouble free. I've owned it for a year and a half, and have not been back to the dealer since. I do my own oil changes, and have tires mounted locally. The instrument panel has fogged up twice riding in the rain, but it hasn't had any effect on how the bike runs. My fuel tank has swelled a bit, but all the bolt holes still line up. My water pump has always made a sound like rattling marbles on first start up. I have heard a few people had to replace them, but mine hasn't gotten any worse.

    In short, I think the in-house Aprilia engines (as opposed to Rotax engines) used on the DD and Shiver are solid. Even if I have to replace the water pump, starter relay, and instrument panel some day, long term costs will be less than the frequent dealer maintanence required by other Italian bikes. I think the DD is just as reliable as any other European bike, but not quite as gas-n-go as the Japanese models.
  14. YakSpout

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    I had one issue, described a few pages back, that required a trip to the dealer. (Bad sensor.)

    Other than that, I do my own oil changes and tire changes and the bike has been pretty worry-free.

    If it gets REALLY hot here (over 100F), I've found that the fuel tank can get a vacuum lock and the bike will throw a 'service' light. I just open the fuel cap and vent the tank and it goes away.
  15. NABRXX

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    I am hugely grateful for the insights you guys are providing, please DD1200 owners keep the complaints or the compliments coming! There may be a DD purchase yet for me in the spring!
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    YakSpout Obstacle Allusion

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    Just to clarify, I have a 750. I don't know how many 1200s are out there yet.
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    Sorry, no. We couldn't get a fabricator to do a cost effective job :cry
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    gumbellion Been here awhile

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    On the left side mounted on on top of the front cylinder it looks like an emissions carbon canister. Is that what it is, and to remove it, is it just a matter of plugging the vacuum and feed lines and tossing that stuff in the trash?