the DR200 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by klxrdr, May 13, 2007.

  1. dean-o

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    do dr125 wheels fit on dr200? i use several for training & wonder about using a spare set of wheels for tire changes...
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  2. Charliedog43

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    I saw a reference somewhere that someone might have installed a DRZ400 rear shock on a DR200. Can anyone confirm a successful installation? If so, what was involved? I've done the ZZR1200 shock on my Concours and the R6 shock on my FZ1 with great results, but both took some modifications. It is much less expesive than going after market tho.

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  3. daffodil60

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    Ok this might sound really stupid, but I put Kenda 761 tires on my bike and I want to check what pressure should be in them. I looked the tires up and it said 32 front and rear??? I had the standard tires on before but these are bigger tires. The previous tires were Bridgestone and they had psi 22/25. Would anyone be able to give me some help with this. Thanks
  4. Charliedog43

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    I would go with what the bike says to start with-22/25 solo or 22/29 two-up or heavily loaded. Setting the tires at 32/32 just sounds too high for that weight bike. I'd bet you would have a very harsh ride, reduced traction, and increased wear down the middle of the tires. Be sure to take it easy around corners for a few miles with the new tires, they might have a coating on them that could make them slippery until it wears off. HTH

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  5. poppawheelie

    poppawheelie Been here awhile

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    There are mousse systems available (state side) for other than Michelin, but are not recommended for any pavement riding. The issue is heat build up. In any usage, the mousse must be liberally lubricated to reduce friction between the tire and mousse.
    Tublis may be the way to go, or if you search the Internet, you'll find different ways of converting spoked rims to tubeless use.
  6. Ladybug0048

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    Thanks for the information.
  7. Wallrat

    Wallrat Been here awhile

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    I really like the tubeliss system and will def be adding it to the DR. That said, its overpriced IMO and you can get better bang for the buck. But if you've done most of the mods you want and are looking for somewhere to throw some money at the bike, then its a good option.
  8. Trailrider200

    Trailrider200 Been here awhile

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    I use quadboss tire sealant, it also balances. more $$$ is ride-on. and there are other manufacturers out there, they are all basically the same thing.
  9. Sateev

    Sateev Been here awhile

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    I think I finally have it nailed: the Hotcams bumpstick works great.

    My setup:

    2003 DR200SE
    FMF exhaust
    Moose foam air filter, no airbox lid, flame arrestor removed.
    Kientech jet kit, needle set to second notch from the top (second leanest position).
    14/45 gearing.
    Hotcams 2066-1 cam (listed as Stage II for DR-Z125 on Procycle website, but called Stage I for the LT230 by Hotcams)
    Valve lash: .004" intake, .005" exhaust (in spite of Hotcams spec of .006"/.013").

    Riding impressions:

    I still have a tiny bit of a flat spot at 3/4 throttle on heavy load, but as soon as it winds up, it pulls VERY hard all the way up. Off idle response is affected by the fuel screw, and seems pretty crisp now. With the 14 tooth countersprocket, I can twist the throttle and pull hard on the bars, and it will still wheelie straight up in first (no clutch).

    I suspect it is still a bit rich on the needle, but I want to ride it a while and see how it feels under different conditions. It's brutally hot and humid here this past week, so I will keep riding it until I get some cooler weather to test it in.

    The difference at top end is really impressive, and since the bike is so light, compared to the XR250s I see around here, I have no doubt that I could smoke one all the way to my redline. It seems to want to keep going past 120kph (75mph), but I don't have a good place to test it around here.

    As is usual with a hotter cam, it takes a bit more attention to the throttle to keep in in the torque band, but I'm already used to it, and satisfied.

    As I posted before, it was easy to change without removing the engine, and it's oil-tight and clean.

    Thanks to Jeff at Procycle for getting me straight on the valve lash. Worth every penny.

    Next, my Seat Concepts seat is on the way, after an initial hiccup (my fault, bought the wrong seat and had it shipped to them). Can't wait to take a longer ride without losing feeling in my ass-parts...

    Have fun.
  10. Farfolomew

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    Well I just bought a '97 DR200. I'm kind of hoping I don't regret it. For one, the guy "lost" the title, so I have to get that replaced (I hope the bike's not stolen!) Second, he sold it as a '00, but when I checked the VIN when I got home I determined it was a '97. Third, I have to buy signals and mirrors because he took them off for god knows what reason. The odometer only has 750 miles, but is that something that can easily be rolled back? If it is accurate, i'm certain the 750 miles were put in off road, despite his claiming otherwise. I doubt the engine has been broken in properly, if that matters much (i've read conflicting reviews on that). It was my first used motorcycle purchase, so I didn't realize some of these things I overlooked. Well, at least it runs ok, although it couldn't go faster than 65mph with the wind, and the engine seems annoyingly loud at higher RPMs.

    Anyways, can you guys help me identify a few things on the bike?

    First the turn signals. Can someone tell me what's the name of the type of plastic connector on the bike's wiring harness? These are where the turn signal lights plug into.

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    Second, the owner said he did something with the carburetor. Looking at pics of other DR200s, I've noticed mine does look a little different. It has a green foamy cylinder for one thing. If possible, could someone identify anything non-stock in this pic?

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    Last, on the dashboard, there's a light at the bottom that doesn't come on. It has no painted symbol on it, so I suspect it's not used, but was wondering perhaps if it's an engine temperature light?. If not, does anyone know what it's for? I'm kind of concerned about the lack of an engine/oil indicator!

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    Also, the bike doesn't have side panels (frame covers) on it. Are those possible to replace? Any place sell them, besides ebay (i've looked), could I get a compatible one from another bike? Thanks a bunch!
  11. Klay

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    You're missing your airbox. The carb is likely not jetted properly as a result, which could account for the bike being down on power a bit.

    That's not a light on the bottom of the instrument panel...it's just a blank space.

    The previous owner probably fooled around with the muffler. You ought to make sure it still has a spark arrestor in there.

    What's that little blue filter under the carb connected to?

    Don't know the name of the connectors for the turn signals. Good luck with the bike...looks like the previous owner really screwed around with it.
  12. Sateev

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    Ah, where to start...

    I don't think the turn signal connectors have a name, but you can buy the mates with leads attached, or go to the motorcycle salvage and snag some.

    The 'green foam cylinder' is some kind of aftermarket foam air cleaner, which he installed after removing the airbox...looks like he went for the 'naked bike' look, no airbox, no side covers. That purple dingus visible below the carburetor is a crankcase vent filter.

    The bottom-most light on the instrument panel ISN'T a light - it's just a dummy plug, no indicator light belongs there.

    Side covers from any DR200 should fit, but, of course, no other model is going to be an exact fit. Stay with later models ('90s), just to be sure...I recently got bit by a '87 seat which I assumed should be the same, but isn't.

    You seem to have fairly little motorcycle experience, so if you got it for a decent price, you probably won't get hurt using it to learn about bikes. You're doing the right thing asking here - plenty of folks to help you get the bike in the shape you want.

    Good luck.
  13. Sateev

    Sateev Been here awhile

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    A quick Google search for "Suzuki Turn Signal Connector" got several useful hits...
  14. Farfolomew

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    I payed $1100 for it, thinking it was good considering the low mileage. I dunno..

    What purpose does the airbox serve and what difference will there be with the green foamy thing used instead?

    Yes, I have very little mechanical knowledge, and i'm now worried I made a bad mistake on this thing...

    Anyways, thanks a bunch for the awesome help.

  15. Farfolomew

    Farfolomew n00b

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    I'll be damned, that was simple. I feel dumb now, I did several google searches but obviously with the wrong lingo. Thanks!
  16. Sateev

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    The airbox has several functions, but it mainly protects the air filter from direct exposure to the elements. It also serves as an element of intake tract tuning (see Helmholtz effect), and as a place for the crankcase to vent (and feed the fumes back through the engine to burn - an emissions feature).

    The difference with the 'green foamy thing' is hard to predict. For sure, it will change the jetting requirements, and, even if jetted properly, may decrease performance, due to the loss of the resonating effect of the confined volume (Helmholtz again).

    I no longer live in the US, and so my bike price calibration is off quite a bit, but, for me, $1100, depending on the condition of the rest of the bike, is not bad, especially if you are committed to doing any work on it yourself. If you are thinking about bringing it back to stock specs, you will find most of the parts you need on eBay, although it may take some time. Be sure to get all the little stuff (hoses, brackets, etc.) too, because they can be expensive from the dealer.

    Try not to worry about what you paid for it; start thinking about how much fun it will be to ride, and the satisfaction you can take from putting it in the shape you want. Before long, you'll be helping others get their own bikes straightened out...

    Have fun.
  17. Farfolomew

    Farfolomew n00b

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    Thanks for the clear and concise answers! My dad identified the green foamy thingy as a Filtron filter. He's probably going to take the bike from me, and i'm going to buy his KLX-250, but i'm still going to help him get it into the shape he wants. He mentioned wanting to put back on a stock air box for pretty much the exact benefits you mentioned above. That said, will any 96-2009 DR200SE air box work, or do I have to get the '97 version? And also, I found this on ebay, but i'm thinking it's missing a lot of parts:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/220961735184?item=220961735184&viewitem=&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_1180

    I'd ask my dad, but he's not here at the moment.

    Thanks again!
  18. Sateev

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    You're right, that airbox on eBay is missing EVERYTHING - not a good buy. But you can use just about any 1990s-2000s airbox from a DR200SE, so keep looking. Make sure you get the airbox lid, the carb boot, breather hose, etc. Better to find some guy who took all that stuff off to do a 'naked bike' than some guy who is parting out a crashed or broken bike. Those guys never seem to get it: you need all the little pieces. The guys who are modding their bikes usually are happy just to get a few bucks for the parts they no longer need, instead of squeezing every last dime out. Such a guy might have the sidecovers, too...

    Sounds like a good father/son project. I wish you the best.
  19. Farfolomew

    Farfolomew n00b

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    Well, i'm almost 30 and he's 60-something, so neither of us are exactly "young." :p. I'm not sure how much patience either one of us has in us for a father/son project at this point, but I'm willing to try!

    Thanks for the info about the ebay item, I suspected it was missing everything like you mentioned. Is the diagram listed at this link contain every part you mentioned? If so, I can use it as a good reference for what I need:

    http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model_years/4045-suzuki-1997--dr200se/assemblies/120183-air-cleaner
  20. Charliedog43

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    Just a thought, if you don't have a wiring diagram, the connector with the green wire is the connector for the right turn signal-with the black/white stripe wire being the ground. The other connector, obviously, is for the left turn signal. The rear connectors should be located in a vinyl wrapped pack above the battery-the same two connectors, the same color coding. And parts for 1996 on model years should work with no problems-different colors for the plastic maybe. Parts from model year 1995 and older might, or might not, work-no guarantees. Good luck.

    Larry aka CharlieDog
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