the DR200 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by klxrdr, May 13, 2007.

  1. gdeiss

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    I, too, am 5'10", 30" inseam, about 200lbs., and the dr200 is not too small for me but I'm glad it's not any smaller. I don't get off-road with it, don't ride aggressively, and am content with it's placid speeds. However, inside 30 minutes on the bike and my posterior is uncomfortable.

    I like nearly everything about this little bike but seat comfort may end up being a deal-killer for me. In the attached pic (along the Salmon River just south of Cottonwood, Idaho) you'll notice the usually purple seat is covered by the much-discussed Walmart seat pad. I wish it improved the seat's comfort level for me but it doesn't much.

    I don't need car-like comfort, but when trying to get comfortable becomes the main focus of the ride after just 20 minutes or so the fun starts fading fast. I'm sure my 55 year old butt just doesn't tolerate what it used to 40 years ago, and I know comfort is a subjective and personal issue. Still, there's got to be something out there that's better than this!

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  2. viverrid

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    Well, that's why. For 5'-10" (which is my height) it is okay to just sit your ass on it, as in street/road riding. It is when you are rising to standing that its inadequate pegs to seat height is apparent. Kind of like a jockey position (okay the Preakness was just on) but a jockey's ride is only about 5 minutes "up on the pegs".
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  3. green hell

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    i can fit two cans of guinness in the small chase harper bag i bought for the bike! :lol3

    i've put about 250 miles on since getting the bike last week. once i hit 100 miles the engine seemed to smooth out a bit. and frankly, i'm not one of those break-it-in-too-gently sort of guys.

    i hit as many dirt roads as i could last weekend, just to get my legs back for that sort of thing. there was gravel, hard packed dirt, loose (but shallow) dirt, and mud (though no standing water). i was feeling pretty good about things

    today i mapped the backroads path to work, in case i decided to commute occassionally with this bike. sweet merciful crap! i got into some loose, deep dirt and the ass-end was trying to swap places with the front. after gracelessly recovering from that, i about worked up a 30mph high-side when i over-corrected riding in some deep hard ruts.

    alright, i said to myself, don't get cocky.

    ooooh, look! deep mud with standing water! how bad could that be?

    why, pretty bad, thanks!

    i kept it up, but i'm sure there was no skill involved on my part.

    so with my ego in check, i've learned that you can put some really strong input into the handlebars to keep things vertical and not to think that i'm going to float over any obstacle in the road.

    i did drill out the plug over the pilot and back it out about 1/4 turn. this has been standard procedure on all of the carbed bikes i've had in the past. at first i was unimpressed with my efforts, but once the bike warmed up a bit it seemed like the throttle response was improved somewhat.

    i also have a 39 tooth sprocket coming soon, with the hope that it will make the sporadic highway run a little smoother.

    so other than scaring the crap out of myself a few times, i'm pretty happy with my purchase.

    tires may be next on the list of upgrades. these trailwings kinda suck in anything even vaguely deep, and i'm not good enough to compensate for them.
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  4. steve gs

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    If you like everything less the seat call one of the many "seat" guys and have it reworked. They can do wonders. I'm only 5'7" and 150# so I don't have the seat react in the same way as you heavier riders do.

    For riding in a recreational trials mode I really liked the bike and even peg top seat dimension but not the large tank (the only circumstance where a big tank would be a negative) which gets in the way of the knees when standing on steep climbs. We all know the 200 is in no way a woods or trail blaster and I don't expect mine to be. It's a reasonable compromise that I can accept.
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  5. Klay

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    I had good luck with a thick sheepskin seat cover as mentioned by our aussie friend above. A sheepskin seat cover will make a bad seat okay and a good seat great.

    Surprisingly, my butt did okay on the 200 with the sheepskin on the seat from Minnesota to western North Dakota and back.
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  6. Klay

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    I've been running K270s. Here's what the rear looks like after 1500 hard miles:

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    Here's what a new one looks like:

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    It's almost used up. This trip was about 500 miles gravel and a thousand miles paved at typical speeds of 40-60 mph. But keep in mind I weigh 200 pounds and I had camping gear on back.
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  7. Klay

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    If anybody tries to tell you these are of low quality or cheap in any way, they just picked up a load of baloney from the wacky crackpot store. I ran it wide open on the pavement a lot of the time with a heavy load up grades, in bad headwinds etc. It just hummed away like magic for 1500 miles and didn't use a drop of oil. When I let the revs drop to idle after a hard run, it just fell back into its perfect popping idle.

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  8. green hell

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    so, there's a ride report coming, right?

    :evil
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  9. Klay

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    6:00 am in Wahpeton, North Dakota:

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    The Dakotas are very wet this spring. There's water in the ditches everywhere. A waterfowl's paradise. I tried to dodge the ducks but one flew into my left arm while riding at 50 mph. He was stunned but recovered and flew away.

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    Lake Sakakawea:

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    The lake was big enough that there was a lake effect...a cold breeze off the lake.

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    The badlands:

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    It was 40 degrees with fog and mist on the way back east through North Dakota:

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  10. green hell

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    :thumb
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  11. Klay

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    I'll think about posting a proper ride report at some time in the future, but these are probably the best pictures. I was having camera trouble. More accurately, the SD card got scrambled.
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  12. green hell

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    my wife's sd card got hosed (more specifically, i hosed it :cry) and we sent it to some place that managed to recover all the photos.

    i don't remember who it was; we googled around.

    i'm quite impressed with the mileage and timing.

    nice trip!
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  13. steve gs

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    And another item one might want to consider are good quality cycling shorts. I'll have to try that sheepskin cover. I wonder if the shorts when combined with the cover would improve the comfort further.

    Klay, didn't expect you back so soon, you must have been doing 300-400 mile days. What was your longest (mileage) day. Also, what were your average cruise speeds on the surfaced vs graveled roads.

    After your experience with the Kendas how do you rate them. Not much left after your trip. Will you refit again or look elsewhere.



    Looked like a great trip, thanks for the pics.

    Another great ride...:ricky
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  14. Klay

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    Oh, and one more thing. This happened during my mini-tour:




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    10,000 miles on my little thumper. :ricky<!-- / message -->
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  15. Tantrum

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    :clap Congrats! It's cool that you recorded the event. Neat ride pics too.
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  16. Klay

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    I rode a slightly shorter distance than I expected and covered more per day than expected. Hence the early return. I averaged about 280 miles per day. (the first 90 miles on the Kendas happened before I left)

    My longest day was Saturday, 361 miles, from Dickinson, ND to Sisseton, SD. I took gravel and secondary roads all the way. It was 40 degrees when I took off. After a period of time I realized I had better stop somewhere and warm up, because my feet and hands were going numb and I realized I was making mental mistakes like thinking the trip meter said 80 after I just looked at it, then looking down again and seeing it was indicating 69. I ran up to a cafe on I94, warmed up and ate, then went southeast again. This was the most memorable day...it just felt like magic with the little thumper humming along flawlessly through the mist and fog amongst the green hills and the weird red and gray erosion formations that crop up here and there.

    Some of the gravel was as good as asphalt and I ran 50-55 mph. The worst was like three inches of sand and I didn't want to exceed 20 with my camping stuff on the back.

    I really ran into bad luck with the wind the first two days. The first day was straight northwest into a powerful gale. I was only able to cruise at about 40 to 45 mph with 1/2 to 2/3 throttle. I recorded a perfomance achievement of an all time low of (drumroll) 44 miles to the gallon. Good thing the DR has the big tank. Reserve was at about 2.75 gallons.

    Then the next day was good as I rode north up the Sheyenne River valley on a run before the wind. This was a lot of twisty gravel, 40-45 mph. Speed limit 25? Nonsense.

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    After a nice run north, I reluctantly turned west on a beam reach at Carrington. There was a nasty, gusty gale from the south that was blowing the little bike around and she could only manage 40-45 mph with 2/3 or so throttle. This was very fatiguing. I called it a day in McCluskey.

    I know better than this; I should have just gone wherever the wind wanted to blow me. I should have let the wind blow me up to Moose Mountain, where I've always wanted to go exploring more. Another lesson re-learned.

    I picked out roads that were so desolate that I never had a hard time with too many cars coming up behind me and trying to pass. I saw very few motorcyclists.

    The rear Kenda is almost used up, but I like the grip and low, low, price so much that I will get another. The front tire sustained virtually unmeasurable wear.
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  17. Klay

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    :D tnx
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  18. Klay

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    Great pictures, Python!
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  19. Klay

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    I've never gotten close to 100 mpg. But I can see how if I was really careful, I could pull that off. Usually I ride the 200 with abandon around town and on trails and it turns in 70 to 80 miles to the gallon. If I add in highway and freeway speeds for short bursts the mileage can dip to the 60's.

    Flogging it down the endless road out west against a head wind can really drive the mileage down. Reminds me of my DR650 in that respect.
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  20. viverrid

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    We had a rider on a DR-200 in yesterday's 3rd Annual Massachusetts Dualsport ride. I don't know if she did any of the Hero Sections, but then a lot of the 1200 GS bikes didn't either. It is ironic or sumthin' to see the 200 and the 1200s riding the same event.
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