the DR200 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by klxrdr, May 13, 2007.

  1. cidd

    cidd doppler shift

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    Hey guys do any of you know if there is a way to upgrade the rear shock in this littel bike so it can take a heavy rider and maybee lift the rear a little ??? Iv been looking around but im not quit shure what I should be looking for ? would the rear shock from the dr650 fit???
  2. Dorito

    Dorito Dreamer and Doer

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    Most bang for your buck, I've found is upgrading the front suspension first. Hard to control a beast that wants to nose dive/snorkle.

    Purportedly, the rear shock has some funky angle which might replacement difficult. I've not tried this one, but it is the only aftermarket rear shock I am aware of.

    http://www.worksperformance.com/pdf/.../dirtbikes.pdf
  3. cidd

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    yeh I was thinking of adding a spacer to the front maybee a 1/2" or so ? gota start somewhere cause it nose dives bad when you downshift.
  4. Sunspark

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    Hi:

    Apologies for the perhaps rarely asked odd question, but the exhaust pipe on the DR200SE is very close to the rider. Seems like the other bikes have the pipe farther out closer to the curve of the rear wheel. Does the proximity of the exhaust on the DR200SE get fumes on the back of clothes?
  5. Klay

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    Not in the slightest. Not something to worry about.

    I'm running the stock muffler with a Kientech-modified nozzle. The muffler is cool enough with Kientech jet setup that I can put throw-over saddlebags directly on the muffler guard without melting them.
  6. northsouth15

    northsouth15 Been here awhile

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    I wouldn't worry about the muffler...

    1.) motorcycles (esp. carbureted) usually smell a little...plus being outside can make you smell a little bit from exposure to all the elements...there's just no way you're perfectly clean unless you're fully enclosed (like in cage). Being on a bike is about getting rid of that extra layer of metal so you can be out in the open... you'll just have to get used to it

    2.) I don't know anything about design, but I imagine suzuki motorcycle designers setup the exhaust to be on the bike safely, without any harm to the rider. Whether it be heat, or the potentially cancerous exhaust fumes, I trust being on your bike is safe enough from an exhaust standpoint from the factory. I highly doubt any modification from yourself will do anything but make it louder.

    for the rear suspension guy - did you already increase the prelead on the rear shock? my bike's still new to me, but I did see a preload adjustment on the shock. I know it's theoretically *just* used to set the sag (the amount springs compress from full topped out to fully loaded) correctly, but in a real world rider can be used to set the rear higher for heavier riders and "stiffen up the rear"

    in my humble opinion - set the sag (and maybe swap out the springs to one with a higher spring rate) and be done with it. Suzuki (as with all motorcycle design) designed the suspension so that it compresses properly when bumps hit it from below, and so that it extends properly when you ride over drops in the road or when you're in the air...by swapping shocks from different bikes, you mess up all that design and potentially make the handling worse or just outright dangerous. Fact is, we're not smart enough how to make it "better". The only people that can, are suspension guys, and that will cost about $1,500 to do right...more than the bike is worth; and in the end you have a 13hp air cooled bike that still can't go...if you want more suspension, get a DRZ400!
  7. northsouth15

    northsouth15 Been here awhile

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    more riding - this thing is such a fun urban adventure bike. It takes me everywhere the XR100 couldn't even touch...so now I use it on the way to the gym, to pickup milk, and even to drop off small amounts of laundry

    I live in Long Beach California where all the speeds are 40mph and below..which is *just* fast enough to pass cars, but not too slow where you can't open her up

    Finally got the wheel a little higher today (usually it's a 6"-1 foot off the ground...this time I started to shift the the center of gravity towards the rear) in 1st gear...for me all dirt bikes feel like wheelie machines, and this is no exception.

    I read online from a review magazine, that they felt the rear brake was either lockup or nothing, but I was able to actuate it a little bit. As a matter of fact, it only locked on pavement when really started to mash it. Scrubbing the tires is definitely giving it more traction, but I don't imagine it's going to help at all off-road...

    still need to change the petcock, oil, and maybe even consider getting bars without this weird enduro bend...

    100 miles down...400 to go to start using more throttle!
  8. cidd

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    I put a 2" lift on my bars it help a ton made it feel like a bigger bike and you dont have to change any of the cabels to do it .
  9. 85suzuki

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    After a fresh rebuild last fall my dr has been leaking oil from this hole. My mechanic says he has never seen this before and tried to find a cylinder to compare it to but could only find 125's. does anyone know why this hole is there? The bike runs great I'm just wanting to leave the trails oil free. Can I drill,tap, and plug the hole?
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    What are your thoughts?
  10. northsouth15

    northsouth15 Been here awhile

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    I think it would help if the pics were a bit larger :rofl
  11. 85suzuki

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    LOL downsized.
  12. cidd

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    Is that the front of the cylinder ? if so that could be an extra boss for an accessory of some type to bolt to or maybe a spot to tap an oil galley running up to the top of the motor to oil the valves ? either way the metal separating the two has gotten a small hole in it and it would be smart to fix it if you can b4 the hole gets bigger.
  13. 85suzuki

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    Yes it is the front of the cylinder. The hole is a manufactured hole for sure as to who the manufacturer or person is that made it I don't know? I just wonder why its there and if it would be a problem if I plugged it.
    Thanks for your reply
  14. northsouth15

    northsouth15 Been here awhile

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    well, I checked the front of my '99 200se and I have the hole too...but it doesn't leak

    I would honestly be more curious about why it's leaking; that would better answer if it's okay to plug

    if that's leaking internally - how is oil getting there? when the engine was rebuilt, was it bored out? was there supposed to be a metal wall backing to it that is now removed?

    if so, then plugging it is not the answer; you might need to re-sleeve it...

    but who knows - better to figure out why it's leaking first
  15. PaulRas

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    I've been looking everywhere for a 41t sprocket and can not find one anywhere! is there any site that has them they you could put up a link of?
  16. cidd

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    The whole is not thrue the cylinder wall or you would be haveing more problems than just leaking oil. I think it is going into the area for the push rods that operate the valves this would be an area for oil to drain back down to the crank case after lubricating the valve lifters. I would think in order to seal this the area would need cleaned and then maybee you could use PC7 epoxi or have it aluminum welded ? that I would leav up the mechanic or try and find a used cylinder .
  17. 85suzuki

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    Good to know that I'm not the only one with the hole in the cylinder. The cylinder was bored out and a new piston and rings were installed. I agree I would love to know why it is leaking instead of plugging it. Thanks for your reply.
  18. 85suzuki

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    Thanks for your reply. I agree there would be bigger issues if it was through the cylinder wall. Not sure I want to plug this hole just yet. I would like to know what the cause is first
  19. northsouth15

    northsouth15 Been here awhile

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    I've never been inside a DR200...but here's a pic from ebay:

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    looking at that - I'd agree, it doesn't look like it went through the cylinder

    but there's a space next to the cylinder for (what I'm guessing) is the cam chain

    somewhere in that space is where I'd guess the leak is coming from....and as cidd suggested, it could be from where the cylinder head where the valves are lubricated

    however - without pulling that cylinder off, I have no idea what's causing it to leak

    but if it's not pressurized - what's the harm in plugging the hole?
  20. 85suzuki

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    Thank you for that post. Still not sure what that hole is for or what will happen if I plug it? Will the oil back up somewhere that I don't want it to? Or will it go back down to the crankcase?