the DR200 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by klxrdr, May 13, 2007.

  1. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    Basecamp is a free download from Garmin and their new supported software.

    http://www.garmin.com/en-US/shop/downloads/basecamp

    Good tips on using Basecamp in this thread...
    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=899796

    Mapsource is being phased out and while Basecamp isn't quite as good as Mapsource, it's getting there. Some old Mapsource users complain about the basecamp interface but like anything, spend some time, learn it and it can be a useful tool. I'm fortunate I guess in that I never learned MapSource, I used to spend all my time in Delorme Topo and if you can figure that software out you can figure anything out. Quirky but powerful.
  2. Andyinhilo

    Andyinhilo Long timer

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    I don't think there is a "kit", but looking at the prices for the kickstart parts from an old DR200 or a DR-Z125 (appear to be same parts) you would be looking at over $400.00 in parts. If you took off all of the street legal stuff, then added the weight of the kickstarter parts, I doubt you would save more than 20 lbs, if you can actually eliminate the battery.
  3. Wallrat

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    I have to agree with Mrchristian here, and I'm the 1st guy to say that the DR needs a diet! You say you are just doing recreational trail riding, what do you think the DR is?

    Try a Shorai battery and new handlebars - that's good for 5 lbs (and significantly lowers your center of gravity). Put in some Tubeliss and save another 6-8 lbs depending on what sort of tubes you used - and since that's unsprung and rotating mass, the effect is 4x as great. That puts you at -30~lbs for $400~ and you still have e-start.
  4. Joelness

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    Over 600 miles on the litle DR in the last three days; performed flawlessly.
  5. Wallrat

    Wallrat Been here awhile

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    Why wouldn't it?
  6. northsouth15

    northsouth15 Been here awhile

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    ok I figured this issue out - if the bike idles, it's not the pilot jet

    turns out, it's the spring that pushes the throttle slide/needle down. It sits on a plastic ring, which sits on the needle and pushes it down when the throttle is closed. This plastic ring fell out (but why?), so when I went WOT with the throttle, the slide went up, but the needle did not. The bike was starving for gas

    put the plastic ring back underneath the spring (or maybe it threads into the spring?), and voila, low-mid throttle came back and she continued to do standup wheelies on the back pegs :clap
  7. suseuser

    suseuser Love to ride

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    I had the exact same thing happen. I ordered a new plastic "ring" which to me actually looks like a disk. I don't know if the previous owner had taken the carb apart or I lost it the first time I took it apart. I have mine just sitting on top of the spring. Maybe it does get threaded into the spring. I just put it back on the bottom like you. It really can't go anywhere.
  8. suseuser

    suseuser Love to ride

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    That's crazy. I'm guessing they were street miles. 200 miles of dirt a day would take me a long time! The last time I went out in the dirt it took me all day to ride 50 miles. But, over 90% of it was in first and second gear. Yesterday I took a trip from Nampa, Idaho to Silver City, Idaho http://goo.gl/maps/y28ji
    I was in my 2WD Crew Cab Tundra. I could have used the DR's! I think I added a few new rattles and squeaks to the truck.
  9. Joelness

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    Yes mostly street. Some checking fencelines but mostly highway 101 down the Oregon coast.
  10. 73Mustang

    73Mustang Been here awhile

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    I love the old school-ness of my DR.

    My nearly brand new DR fell off the trailer as I was pulling out of the parking lot. It landed upside down and got dragged for a while. I was pissed. I thought there's going to be hundreds of dollars in damage. Guess what $30 later, my DR is mechanically as good as new. The headlight cover and front of the mirrors got scratched up but it's only cosmetic. Only mechanical thing that broke was the mount on the back of the instrument panel. I thought $%*&! this is going to cost. Turns out, Suzuki sell separately the parts to the instrument panel. Man, it was only $30 shipped. :rofl

    I wonder what would have happened if I had a CRF250 or XT250. I looked at RockyMTnATV. You can't git the the parts individually on those two bikes. You have to buy the whole instrument panel. $250 and $300 for those two bikes. :rofl

    Man, I'm so happy my DR uses old school instrument.

    Remember that next time you think you want those cool looking electronic instrument.:rofl
  11. T680277

    T680277 n00b

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    Hello there as i am rideing my 05 dr200 i can hear a skeaking nose comeing from the right side of the bike but when i take my hand off the throtel it gose away it sounds like a old chair and your bounsing on it can anyone help or have had the same problum i am useing amsoil (full synthetic) in it and oil change as done 1 1/2 months ago and i only put on about 1500km thanks
  12. 73Mustang

    73Mustang Been here awhile

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    What is the best way to wire a 12-volt GPS into the DR?
  13. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    I like my gps always on so you can check tracks etc. while stopped with the bike off. No worries about leaving it on and draining the battery because I just pop it out of its cradle and take it with me if leaving the bike unattended. Straight to the battery is simplest. I use Eastern Beavers stuff for all my electrical. He has a simple 3 Circuit solution that works great if you don't need a fuse block. I order it with one unswitched so that's for my gps, then one switched for my heated grips, and one left for heated vest or charging cell phone etc.

    http://easternbeaver.com/Main/Wiring_Kits/Fuseboxes/3_Circuit/3_circuit.html
  14. suseuser

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    I would just plug it into the trickle-charger jack.
  15. northsouth15

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    back peg wheelies

    I gotta cover that rear brake!!!

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  16. LumberingJack

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    I've got a problem with my 200 that's starting to baffle me a bit now.

    A few weeks ago we were taking part in a local big bike rally which consisted of mainly fireroads and open moorland going but the special test took in a few deepish water spashes.

    On the first two laps it didn't ike the water but kept going and sorted itself, but on the third it spluttered and died. Looking at where the water had gotten to I'm pretty sure it hadn't swallowed any water, or if it had it was at worst a splashing over the end of the carb breather (though that seemed to be clean insode on inspection).

    I put fresh plug in and it went again and ran fine for about 5 minutes or so and then it wouldn't rev out past about half throttle, any less than that and it ran fine but nothing above at all, even if held flat out.

    So, we limped back the last bit and I got busy with the WD40 on all the connections. No better. Swapped plug, no better. Swapped HT lead and plug cap and no better. Panicking a bit as it was getting dark and we wouldn't have long in the morning before the start, I even had the cab off and blew through everything and it was still no better. Have even cleaned every connector and earth and even tried disconnecting the kill switches/side stand switch and anything else I could try to eliminate and none of it worked.

    Limped it through the second day, got home, washed it, let it warm up and dry out then put it back in the garage until I had chance to have another go today. Whipped carb off again just in case and gave it another thorough clean.

    It starts fine, has plenty of poke at low throttle openings but just splutters and coughs from about half. If I hold it flat out it just keeps spluttering but doesn't die. I'm thinking electrical as the smoke is smelling quite gassy like it's not burning it all (so not firing rather than starving it of Gas).

    Has anyone else had similar symptoms before I start stripping the elctricals again.

    One other thing while I'm on, would fitting the flatslide carb off of a late 1980's DR 200 onto a similar aged DR 125 be of any benefit? Half wondered if it might help a little on top end but not sure. It's just I have one kicking about in the shed that might as well get put to good use.
  17. northsouth15

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    that's a tough call...I'm guessing either electrical or carb

    when you say "half", do you mean throttle position or engine speed?

    if it's engine speed, it might be electrical - I've seen it happen with an XR250 where he had a loose ground...you would just have to chase all the electrical to where it attaches on the frame and clean/re-attach the connections

    if it's throttle position, my *guess* is that it's carb - low throttle response means the pilot circuit works fine, but higher throttle position either means the bike is starving for gas or there is an issue with the slide or main jet/needle

    since the carb is easier to figure out, I would try that first
  18. northsouth15

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    I'm looking at the wiring diagram for the dr200se, and there are no auxiliary leads on the system anywhere - what this means is that you can't just plug it in somewhere

    quick option 1: tap into the battery
    quick option 2: tap into the head/tail light**

    **issue: I don't know how much extra current the GPS will use, so I don't know if it will pop any fuses

    best option: use a relay to tap off the battery, and have it trigger with the head/tail light leads so that the power shuts off when the bike is off

    protip - if you tap off the tail light, then you can put the key in the "park" mode and still get power while the bike is off, and keep the headlight off to save the battery
  19. 73Mustang

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    I am seeing a unused connector with a brown and black wires. Mine is 2013 model. The wires are pretty skinny looking.
  20. northsouth15

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    where??