the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. kdennan

    kdennan Been here awhile

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    New guy here,
    Picking up a new DR soon so I am pouring over this awesome site, searching for tips. What tire is so called the "deathwing"? Is it the stock tire?
    Thanks
  2. D-Fuzz

    D-Fuzz Been here awhile

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    If you already have a DR350, I would just ride that. Maybe not quite as capable as the 650, but those Mondo Enduro guys rode them around the world, loaded to the nuts, and did fine. At least you already know the bike. As has been mentioned here, the DR650 you mention is an early model that has been stored outside and corrosion is an issue. If there is corrosion on the frame and such, there is a good chance the electricals are corroded as well. Also, as far as having gaskets replaced and so on, my first question would be why? If it truly only has 5000-odd miles why was it necessary? And does he have receipts and such to show what was done and who did it? If finances are tight, I would be concerned about the bike becoming a large moneypit. If it were me, I'd be patient, sell off the bikes you no longer want and use that money to buy a newer (and likely better) example of a DR650.
  3. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    Yes, the stock TrailWing tire. They are a great road tire, they just suck "off" road. I know it's always about the rider, but here's what's left of mine after the umteenth washout of the front end. I haven't had a single washout since installing the IRC GP1s, and I'm riding a LOT more aggressively than I ever did on the TrailWings.

    [​IMG]

    The TrailWings are great on the street, just take it easy if you head out on a Trail. Oh yeah buy some case guards and a skid plate *before* you do what i did. :deal

    [​IMG]
  4. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    You can check for the base gasket, just look for the little metal tab sticking out. There's a pic of it on here somewhere.
  5. wayno

    wayno Long timer

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  6. JediMaster

    JediMaster Adam Lewis

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    It was built in the States! See the 'Suzuki' tab on my wesite for the full build up - http://shortwayround.co.uk/
  7. decodent

    decodent CyberGypsy

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    Wow ... nice site! Lots and lots of useful info. As I'm just about to start some mods on my new (to me) 06 DR to do the CDT, I'll be reading your site closely.

    Kind 'a looks like you've done the "tested and proven" gig, eh?
    :deal



  8. Rex Nemo

    Rex Nemo horizon calling

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    Good to know about the Agri-Supply tubes. I'll mount mine on the streetbikes instead, and get a Home Depot welding rod holder for the DR.

    I'm wanting to replace the old, hard stock Trailwings on my DR...have Nedro's tire-changing thread up to educate myself, and am looking at a set of Shinko 705s. Seems from my search that they aren't too tough to replace. I'll need tubes in the same size as the tires, yes?

    The DR now has an ebay rear rack, a Sylvania extreme white headlight bulb, removed the top chain roller and plugged the hole with silicone and a plastic cap, replaced the lower chain roller with a bearing roller, added Procycle's engine guards and skid plate.

    Next up...handlebar swap to Renthal 971s, and add proper aluminum hand guards. Do folks recommend Progrip grips for touring? As for heated grips, are the under-grip versions or the warm-wrap (removable) grip heaters more effective and convenient?
  9. djones745

    djones745 Been here awhile

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    I'm considering buying a JC Whitney top box, any thoughts as to which size is better? I'd like the additional space the larger box provides but I don't know if it's too much for the bike. 80% street ridden so far, hope that changes soon!
  10. dentedvw

    dentedvw Where did I put that

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    So, I test rode it about half an hour ago. It smoked a fair bit on startup. :huh
    Nice change having the choke control on the handlebar, though I didn't need it because it wouldn't run without the choke on. :lol3 I don't think it should take five minutes to warm up? Maybe it's just that much different from our DR350. It seemed sluggish, but I have to attribute that to the choke, not warming up, or the burning oil.
    Maybe you are picking up the vibe that I am putting out here. :D
    I left it where it was.

    A V-strom would be nice, but not sure I want to spend that much right now. I will keep saving my pennies (yeah right, as soon as I save anything it gets used for some other thing in our house) and maybe later this year.

    The DR350 is my wife's now, so she rides it when we do trail rides. I am looking for something for two up with my daughter, who is six. She isn't huge you know, but we are a bit cramped on the DR350, or my DRZ400e. Eh, maybe I should just plate the CL350 and ride that some more. :clap
  11. hensmen

    hensmen Been here awhile

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    Dear dentedvw, as a brand new user off this forum i would sugest you to have a look for other DR´s. A mileage with 5000 on the clock, the owner did a lot. We use the bike in Germany as a bread and butter bike. It`s one off my best. I had the old DR 650 R till 90 thousend kilometers, the new SE has now 65000, with lowest maintain, means here gas, new oil after 12000km an every 15000 a new chain. The second battery, and no problems during winter-use. Now do i see the pictures off well cleaned SE´s with only 5000 mls and alot off good features, with the loaned money, you should try a better deal. Name me Hans, new in ADV and fascinated from this DR thread, Tübingen in the south of Germany,greetings from Hans.
  12. thumpididump

    thumpididump MacGyver

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    I've been messing around with the size of the hole in my airbox lately in an attempt to quiet down the intake noise. I had previously carved about as big a hole as you can in the top of the airbox but it was incredibly noisy.

    So, I've been experimenting with covering it up a little, and re-jetting / re-adjusting accordingly.

    Today I took a daytrip that involved mostly pavement but also about 30 minutes of fast gravel roads... here's what I recorded. I tried to ride very conservatively to see what kind of fuel economy my bike is capable of. The ride was mostly secondary roads with very little stopping and starting, not too fast but not too slow either, plus a little highway riding on the way home. I tried to be easy on the throttle as much as possible.

    I stopped for gas after 127 Kms (79 miles) and it took 6.25 Litres to fill (1.65 US gallons). Wow, I was suprised. That's 4.91 Litres/100 Kms (47.9 mpg).

    I rode another 158 Kms (98.2 miles) before arriving home. Filled up in my neighbourhood and it took 7.95 Litres (2.1 gallons). That's 5.03 Litres/100 Kms (or 46.8 mpg). The ride home included about 20 minutes of sustained highway superslab during which I held it at a steady 110 Kmh (68 mph) as indicated by my Garmin GPS (speedo was showing ~120Km/h). And just for fun, about 15 minutes into the highway stretch --without touching the throttle -- at speed I just yanked the clutch in, hit the kill switch and coasted to a stop on the shoulder. I pulled a spark plug to have a look:

    [​IMG]


    And here's my setup:

    * TM-40 pumper carb
    K&N filter
    moderate-sized hole in the airbox (a little smaller than standard airbox à-la-Jesse)
    135 main jet
    17.5 pilot jet
    jet needle on 3rd clip position
    15/43 gearing
    stock rim/tire sizes
    GSXR1000 exhaust
    ground header
    300 feet above sea level


    While I'm very happy to have seen 47 mpg, the type of riding I did today does not reflect my normal riding style at all. Mostly, I hammer on my bike as hard as I can, riding the shit out of it constantly. Today's ride was just a test to see if my bike can actually get decent fuel mileage if I were interested in that sort of thing. I will now return to abusing my bitch like there's no tomorrow, and I expect my fuel economy to drop by 10 mpg. :D

    Fuel economy, or fun.... there's always a trade off.:clap
  13. yokesman

    yokesman Long timer

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    djones745
    I have the jcw med box, the way the bottom is radiused all the way around and the lock recess is molded in, this makes much of the area unuseable . Because of this I am not going to use mine ,the large box so no longer available.
  14. Andyinhilo

    Andyinhilo Long timer

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    The plug looks OK. As for the economy, when I ride 2-up, naturally being careful, I always get about 52-54 MPG, but when I am solo, I tend to twist it up more, and the mileage is more like 46-50 MPG. Sooo..economy or fun...that is the question.
  15. goodcat8

    goodcat8 I can pass this guy.....

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    Anyone give me a heads up as to the location of the little "fuel filter" coming off the carb somewhere? I have no manual. :dunno
    :beer
  16. thumpididump

    thumpididump MacGyver

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    Remove the fuel hose from the carb (not the petcock) and you'll see a little white plastic insert sticking out of the fuel inlet tube. Use some needle nose pliers and pull it out.

    [​IMG]

    http://elisdadsdr650.blogspot.com/2009/04/rough-running.html





  17. Switchfoot

    Switchfoot It's Time!

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    Just bought a new DR and the guy before me had it lowered. I found the rear suspension in the manual but nothing on the front. Can anyone point me to a thread or know how to do this. And other than spining the two spring nuts on the rear is there anyway to raise that anymore. It just seems to me that it should be a lot taller.

    Thanks,
    Doug
  18. procycle

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    Since you are closing up the airbox you can probably drop the needle at least one clip position.
  19. thumpididump

    thumpididump MacGyver

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    I already tried that, but it made for a little surging. It seems to run pretty sweet right now and the intake noise is much quieter. Performance-wise, I don't see much difference from before running 150 main, 20 pilot, and 3rd clip position with a big hole in the airbox.

    I also cleaned and oiled my K&N recently.

  20. basketcase

    basketcase lifelong reject fixer

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    Moving the rear spring-nuts will increase the pre-load but does not really undo the lowering.

    There is two holes in the lower part of the rear shock. The bolt that secures the lower part must be in the bottom hole to raise the rear of the bike.

    The front forks are a bit more problematic, as there is a piece inside the fork tube that must be accessed and moved in order to get the height back in the front. Which means the fork must be removed from the bike and disassembled, then reassembled.

    Somewhere I have links with "how to's." I'll hunt them up and come back via edit and post them.

    Via edit -- here they are.
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    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415263
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    Somewhere in the suspension section of his rebuild thread there is a description (with pictures) of how to build your own "special tool" to perform the spacer reset inside the forks.

    Others -
    Danwec: Quick lowering and raising question
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=490702
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    Boother: Factoring lowering a DR650
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176223
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    Eakins: DR650 Intiminators (valving) install and review
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=468588
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    Oldcoot: DR650 fork disassembly
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282048
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    shojimon: DR650 lowering questions
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246629
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    sleepywombat: maintenance, engine, & suspension thread
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275832
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