the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. basketcase

    basketcase lifelong reject fixer

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    Moving the rear spring-nuts will increase the pre-load but does not really undo the lowering.

    There is two holes in the lower part of the rear shock. The bolt that secures the lower part must be in the bottom hole to raise the rear of the bike.

    The front forks are a bit more problematic, as there is a piece inside the fork tube that must be accessed and moved in order to get the height back in the front. Which means the fork must be removed from the bike and disassembled, then reassembled.

    Somewhere I have links with "how to's." I'll hunt them up and come back via edit and post them.

    Via edit -- here they are.
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    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415263
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    Somewhere in the suspension section of his rebuild thread there is a description (with pictures) of how to build your own "special tool" to perform the spacer reset inside the forks.

    Others -
    Danwec: Quick lowering and raising question
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=490702
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    Boother: Factoring lowering a DR650
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176223
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    Eakins: DR650 Intiminators (valving) install and review
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=468588
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    Oldcoot: DR650 fork disassembly
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282048
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    shojimon: DR650 lowering questions
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246629
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    sleepywombat: maintenance, engine, & suspension thread
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275832
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  2. Switchfoot

    Switchfoot It's Time!

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    Great, that's perfect. I really appreciate it.
  3. TrophyHunter

    TrophyHunter Long timer

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    http://www.agrisupply.com/product.asp?pn=67670&bhcd2=1238467967

    A little smaller but only $5. I got 6 and with shipping it was just over $40.

    The "cap security" should be a no brainer $3 fix.

    Boldly stolen from Stromtrooper site...Deco..can't believe you missed it:lol3


    Hans - Willkommen! (one of two words I remember from HS German)
  4. Snowy

    Snowy Long timer

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    I did.

    It lasted one trail ride, and tried to punch a hole in my kidney. I have the imprint to remember it by.

    To be fair my friend wanted me to trial it and do a write up, he acquired it, and he bolted it across the grab handles over the back mudguard. I was attempting a rather washed out rutted hill climb when I went 90 degrees to the track, straddled a hump between ruts, got stuck on the bashplate, stalled, and then rolled sideways down the hill. Over and over.

    Trashed blinkers, broken oil cooler frame, scratches, and one missing kidney. I couldn't get my legs to move for a short while, but I'm used to that as I've broken my back and pinch nerves that make me drop like a puppet. when I eventually got up, it took a lot of huffing and puffing to turn the bike from upside down to right side up while on a slope I could hardly stand up on. Then I noticed the tool box was broken. It snapped through the screw hole on the end opposite the screw cap. Salvageable, but I'd mount it somewhere else next time.

    All in all a good days testing.
  5. kezzajohnson

    kezzajohnson kezza

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    Use us and abuse us !!!
  6. 996DL

    996DL Buell me

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    Try to save something for the grandkids Snowy ! :eek1

    If you ain't the toughest sumbitch riding a DR650, I'd hate to meet your competition in a dark alley... :lol3

    996DL
  7. Elvis70

    Elvis70 No speed traps in the sky

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    I need some help here. I have a stock rear rack and want to add a top box that can be removed easily. Is there a good one (not jc whitney) that would work. Thinking Givi but from their website I could not glean which will fit. They don't list the DR under the suzuki tab.
  8. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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  9. Elvis70

    Elvis70 No speed traps in the sky

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    Nice trunk. You think you could throw some armored pants and jacket in there without wadding them up too much?
  10. TrophyHunter

    TrophyHunter Long timer

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    To clarify.... the ebay tubes aren't holding up well? I mean, anything strapped to Snowy or his bike doesn't stand a chance, but I'm talkin' normal usage.

    I'll report out on the $5 tubes when they get here and mount up. I imagine they're used to vibration if they're designed to be mounted to tractors. A little flat black Krylon Fusion rattle can to cover the yellow writing should do it.
  11. hscrugby

    hscrugby "That guy"

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    So I have ~5200 miles on my DR.
    Clutch seemed to die catastrophically letting me walk back.
    (at eastern RDV gathering)
    So with some more knowledgeable folks than me, we adjust the cable and I try it again. It slips when I get on the throttle hard, and slips a lot when she gets hot.
    (To clarify it did get stuck in the mud, I did try once to drive it out, tire spun, then bogged down. I killed it instantly and got creative to get it out.)

    Anyway, I tore it down, and pulled the friction plates. I don't have a new clutch to compare it to, and have never replaced a bike clutch before? I'm guessing these are worn? but no clue? All the plates are at about the same level. REAL thin.
    http://www.photoshop.com/user/hscrugby/?rlang=en_US&wf=shareslideshow&trackingid=BTAGC&galleryid=8e1fdbe086a34e7594cfe7880ecc8d72

    Each pad is slimmer than the ridges on a dime, or right at that deep:
    <img src="http://api.photoshop.com/home_eb50f8a1d6a145009377233e02709fbd/adobe-px-assets/dc2477698f7b4e08b45d503a24dd1485" width="2048" height="1536" alt="clutch wear."/>

    I'm guessing that's a worn clutch? Or am I just used to car/truck clutches and that's normal? Judging by feel after we adjusted, I have a feeling there was no slack in the lever/cable from when I got the bike new.
  12. gplassm

    gplassm Been here awhile

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    That plate does not *look* bad to me. Bike clutch plates look like that. Really, the only way to tell is with a micrometer or a vernier caliper and the factory specs... You will also need to measure the steel/aluminum plates.
  13. thumpididump

    thumpididump MacGyver

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    Givi's mounting plate fits fine for the MonoLock series boxes if you have the Suzuki rack. I've got the E37, which holds 39 Litres of cargo and is a nice size for a weekend trip.

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  14. thumpididump

    thumpididump MacGyver

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    Went for a test ride on a 2010 BMW R1200GS Adventure this morning. It was nice, but I think I can have more fun on my DR.

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    And to think that the price tag of the big Beemer is about the same cost as four DR650's ....Gheesh.. :huh Conclusion: nice bike but I won't be buying one.
  15. Elvis70

    Elvis70 No speed traps in the sky

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    I find Givi's website useless. The E370 box says it comes with universal fitment kit. Does this mean that plate you got on the rack comes with it?
  16. hscrugby

    hscrugby "That guy"

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    Yea finally dug around and found my micrometer.
    It's toast, plates are either just below or right at the replace. (2.5-2.7)
    and one of them (I missed this the first time) actually lost some of the pads.
    soo that one's completely toast. :D
    I really don't think there was ANY slack at all from when I had it new, until I parked it in the mud, so I'm sure that helped the clutch along.
  17. thumpididump

    thumpididump MacGyver

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    Yes, the mounting plate was included.

    I, too, had consulted their website and I agree it's hard to tell from the information and photos... however, I managed to find one in stock at a dealer so I was able to have a good look at it in person before I bought it, and it was on sale.



  18. Backy

    Backy n00b

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    You could always drop your pegs, my Dr650 has homemade peg lowering plates fitted that drop the pegs 1" - 25mm. Makes gear changes easier in boots and helps when standing - I'm 6'2". Cost $2 for some 5mm steel plate and converts back to standard in 1 minute! Also has pro-taper bars and bar risers. Ed
  19. decodent

    decodent CyberGypsy

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    Backy ... got some pics of those peg lowering plates? I've been thinking I need to lower mine too, and I think about an inch would do me just fine.

    Thanks.


  20. wayno

    wayno Long timer

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    If I remember correctly I used happy-trails.com for my info on the Givi's and ended buying from them also...but that has been quit a few years ago.