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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.
Hahaha, that's right.
or recently divorced!
Or even look at the airbox of a modern 250cc 4 stroke mx bike. The air boxes are minimum double the size of the DR and the filters are double the size. And the engine is almost a 1/3 smaller.
Thanks for the advice. I will probably do this as well... Im trying to save the outlet behind the cowl for a 12v outlet or heated grips. I believe there is also one under the front of the seat i can use. Should i worry about the power consumption of the unit? For example when running heated grips, gps, maybe a heated vest? I cant see it using much power.
I usually figure 1/2 price is a good starting point for used parts. Stuff in really good condition, or that which holds its value could be more. You should have no problem getting rid of the black though. Congrats on your bike and happy farkleing.
With regard to the plastics, you might look at mixing and matching the black and yellow. Someone on here has done that, it looks great. Of course I'm a Can-Am owner, so I'm biased.
Mate, I've got the same pack. Havn't mounted it on the bike yet, but I tried it out by filling it with fuel and leaving it on it's side in the shed for a week. No problems at all. A bit different from bouncing around on the bike I know, but it looks to be a very well made bit of kit. I'd trust it.
I think if you go yellow you might have to have the frame painted PURPLE
I think the previous poster was referring to my bike, yellow tank w/ black Procycle plastic package. I sold and gave away my old plastics cheap in the flea market because they were quite worn.
Hey guys - was wondering if I could get some feedback on making a few upgrades to the bike. Here is what I'm considering:
1. Larger tank. Seems like IMS is the standard? How does everyone feel about them, and what seems to be the popular color( I've read that the clear is easier to see the quantity of fuel)? I'm thinking about the yellow on my black plastic?
2. Saddle bags. Been looking at the Moose Racing Expedition saddle bags. I think for now I'd like something that is easy to put on/off & aren't too large/bulky and they seemed like a decent setup. Are there any people familiar with them? How do they like them?
3. Skid plate. Which one would you guys suggest?
4. Hand guards. Again, what are the ones you'd suggest?
5. Windscreen. I saw a thread on here where someone was running one from a BMW 650x or something - sound familiar? Even if it takes a bit of modification to fit, I liked the way that screen(it was smoked) looked on the DR.
That's it for now. Thanks in advance for any help!!
I bought one of those manuals from fleaBay for my 2002. Vendor says 1996-2002 but when I got the manual the last model covered was 2001.
Is a 2001 and 2002 different enough I should get a different manual? There is one on fleaBay that says 96-09 but now I'm gunshy...
Just a guess, but I'm thinking that the limestone gravel (usually a lot of calcium) is the culprit regarding your rust issue.
As for the IMS tank matching the yellow plastics, its about as close as you can expect. I have an '02 which is all yellow - even the sidepanels - and the IMS tank looks great.
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IMS is certainly the most popular. Not too big, not too small and reasonable quality & price. Translucent will let you see how much fuel you have in the tank, but they take on a yellowish, dingy looking tinge after a while. Don't bother trying to make decals stick on a plastic tank. They will eventually peel off.
The Pat Walsh plate is very rugged, good side protection, and full length. There are about a dozen versions of the Utah/Moose/ProCycle skid plate. They provide good side protection and are a little cheaper than the PW. But they are a little shorter at the back of the engine (not a big deal for most people).
If money is no object, then look at Highway Dirt Bikes. They're in a totally different league. Otherwise, $75 should get you a decent pair of Moose Racing handguards or similar that will do a fine job.
Many have used an upside-down V-Strom windscreen, the fist generation FZ1 windscreens, and the Laminar Lip offering for the Suzuki B-King. Possibilities are endless when it comes to wind protection.
Have a look at this thread:
Lots of good info here:
Looks great, which panniers do you use with that setup?
I put the IMS on mine and really like it. A couple things I recommend, 1) locking/venting gas cap so you have no vent hose-- I use a tankbag; 2) I used the stock petcock so you don't have to turn off the gas. You have to enlarge the hole on the tank, and trim some heat fins on the motor to get it to work. FWIW, if the acerbis 6.6 gal came in black, I would make it fit cause I would love another gallon or so, and the Safari is too big.
As far as saddle bags, the wolfman stuff looks good, but the rack doesn't work with the stock rack, which I like. I'm also considering the Giant Loop Coyote bag since it doesn't need racks.
Procycle has a nice skid plate and you can get it in a package with the case guards. Procycle has a great website that has much good info about a lot of their products and help in making decisions.
I had Maier ATV guards on my KLR which I put on the dr, they have LOTS of room for levers, which I like. I got them from Arrowhead motorsports (in the klr section) If I had the $$, HDB handguards look like the best available (I'm saving up).
The best places I've found for DR stuff (to name a few) is Procycle, Kientech, TPI, Pat Walsh Designs, Twisted Throttle, and ThumperTalk for OEM parts.
All the best on you new 'project'!
I have the Wolfman Expedition bags that go with those racks.
On Hand Guards... I would avoid the Moose ones if you want white. I had the white ones and they turned yellowish after about a month. I sold them and got a set of black Barkbusters Storms instead. Besides, the mounts for the Moose are very hard to make fit a fat bar. The Barkbusters mounts swivel and fit perfectly.
BTW if anybody wants to trade, I have a set of like-new Barkbusters mounts for 7/8's bars and could use mounts for a fat bar.
I cleaned up the motor last night so I can try to figure out where my oil leak is coming from. I'll post more later when i know.
Oh... one more thing. How often are people changing spark plugs? I put new plugs in when I got the bike at 8900 miles, and lately, I'm feeling what might be a very slight miss in the midrange. At first I thought maybe it was jetting, but I'm not convinced that's it. It's a sort of hesitation at very gentle positive throttle. It kinda feels like a lean/congested condition, but I just don't think that's it. BTW, this is with the FCR carb, GSXR muffler, TwinAir Filter, opened up airbox (via the template), etc. Jetting is 150 main, 42 pilot, needle on middle position with a tiny washer under it, and AF 2-1/2 out. Filter is clean. I also recently replaced the inline fuel filter and cleaned out the gas tank to be sure there was no dirt or shavings in it.
This was my previous bike, an 06 KLX 250. It was a great bike, set up for me and great in the dirt, but it just wouldn't do it very well on the freeway for commuting.
This is my current, semi new to me 05 DR 650. The bike was near stock when I bought it from a great seller in OR. Gotta love a good seller. I have rebuilt the suspension front and back, added the Pelican rear box, bolted on some Ulysses blinkers, (they are a very good DS turn signal due to their great flex at the stem), and the Wolfman racks with Expedition dry bags (not shown).
Luckily I picked up one of these on the way home from work yesterday.
Crazy thing is, I didn't know there was a problem until I took a left hand corner and it felt like the front end slid out about a foot. Luckily I didn't go down. I pulled to the shoulder and found my present.
With the bike grounded for a while due to the flat, I decided I might as well spend the weekend adding some parts that I had bought, as well as doing some regular maintenance.
Here are some of the parts laid out waiting for install.
Some of the items to go on are:
IMS 4.9 gal tank
Procycle carb kit - air box mod
Procycle volt meter kit
Dual Star grip heater kit
Eastern Beaver grip heater relay kit
Procycle case guards
Hard power for my Garmin 60csx in the Touratech cradle
Moose hand guards
Here is the IMS tank and Raptor petcock. Notice the hole in the tank is made for a single stem petcock. BTW, the petcock that comes with the IMS tank looks pretty junky. I haven't used it myself, so I'm just sayin'.
I enlarged the hole with my Dremel...
...and now the Raptor petcock fits just fine. The Raptor has a great o-ring so I would be surprised if there were any leaking issues.
I pulled the carb in prep for the Procycle carb kit. Notice that the slide diaphragm has been pinched on two sides by the top cap. A new diaphragm is on order.
Carb parts in the tank ready for a Pine Sol bath
They will soak for 24 hours in their pine fresh bath. (It actually smelled quite funky after a while. Wonder why that is?)
I cut the air box and did some of the other work while the carb parts soaked.
Then I rinsed the carb parts and gave them a cleaning with carb cleaner for good measure. Here are some of the parts ready to be put back together.
Luckily these came in the mail just in time. I figured I would put on some fresh D606s in 130/90 17 for the back, and 90/90 21 for the front. The back tire is larger than the one I had on there before and makes the bike a little taller. Thanks motorcyclesuperstore.com!
Dual Star grip heaters going on. This process was easier than I thought it would be.
Wheels off for tire change and new tubes all around. I also installed new cush drive dampers and let me tell you, it is a bitch to get the sprocket side back into the wheel far enough to actually get the whole assembly to fit in between the swing arms. The new cush bushings wouldn't let the sprocket side fit in far enough into the hub. I finally had to lay the wheel on the floor and stand on the sprocket which barely worked, and I'm a really heavy dude. Notice Erik in the background installing his new Scala G4 headset. We both have them and we love them.
Finally done for now...
The new look up front.
The Procycle volt meter bracket comes with two holes for different mounting options. I used the one that I didn't use for mounting the bracket to mount my grip heater switch.
And finally the new look. I really like it a lot! No tags, badges, or stickers anywhere, except the one ADV sticker of course.
I am having a carb issue, but I won't attach it to this post incase anyone quotes it, then they won't be posting all these pics again because I hate it when people do that.
Thanks for looking, and thank you for any tips you might have on my new carb issue.
I installed the Procycle carb kit and cut the air box as posted in my build above.
The engine starts and idles great, and is nice and smooth on the low end, but the mid range bogs really bad. The top end seems like it has punch.
The aluminum D spacer is supposed to sit on top of the e clip, right?
There doesn't seem to be any popping on decell, and no black smoke that I could tell. I'm thinking that it is running lean in the mid range, maybe a needle issue?
cut air box
145 main jet
clip in the 4th notch
Fuel/air screw turned out 2.75 turns
stock air filter
Is this a tuning problem? Any info helps. Thanks again, everyone!
I'll add my .02 to the mix.