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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.
That's good life out of a rear (semi) Knobbie...What are you using for the front?
A little chatty maybe.
And too much information to be useful.
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Wow! 6400 miles!! That is certainly impressive mileage! I have a new SR 244 here, waiting for the right ride to use it. Sounds like the perfect Baja rear tire.
I've yet to have a 50/50 tire go beyond 4000 miles at best.
Your tire still looks not so bad, maybe 2000 miles or so left? A little flat spotted, but useable in a pinch for sure.
Had no idea the 244 was so tough. Stock Trailwing got me less than 3000 miles. (rear tire) IRC GP-1, about 3500 miles.
Did you ride your DR650 from Colorado down to Mexico and back? What off road sections did you ride in Baja? Did you go all the way to La Paz? How was the Shinko in deep sand? What tire did you run up front?
How was the tire's behavior on the road after about 4000 miles? Any squirm or movement? Reaction to rain gruves or irregular pavement?
My idea would be to run either a D606 or TKC80 up front and the Shinko 244 on the back. The knobby front really helps sand riding.
What do you think?
Well, I quess that did sound a bit underhanded the way I posted it. I think I was subliminally thinking of all the jobs that I've had done over the years on my cycles by local dealers (either because I didn't have the "special tool" or the knowlege to do myself) and felt like I'd been taken to the cleaners and /or outright screwed in the process. I apologize for that post.
Chris in Topeka
Not at all! Once you did the edit it was ALL GOOD. Lots of stuff to think about, but some good ideas in there. It all goes into my mental "tool box" for troubleshooting. Always something to be learned.
I'm sure you'll track this problem down. Making just one change at a time makes narrowing down the culprit easier. But sometimes you just want to ride! Good luck with it!
Does seem impressive for sure.
I've not long got home from a 4,800 km trip to the Flinders where I used a T63 up back and a Pirelli Scorpion Rally up front. The T63 is pretty much done, but the Scorpio Rally Front will go again and it works exceedingly well, very stable, predictable and controllable in the sand and gravel. It also wears square, so no cupping at all. I believe its my 'holy grail' front tyre FWIW. Better than the E09, 606 and MT21s used to date on the DR650, except maybe the MT21 will last a bit longer if its rotated, maybe.
Found an interesting DR:
Sighhhhhh, mine looks just like that at............ 1400 miles.
Still looks good to me.....
My last Shinko 700 was on the wear bars at 4000 or so. I was happy with the tire. Tend to like the 705 better though, I like the better tread life.
Wear is so bike and rider specific. What oil you runnin :sly:
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My DR wears a rear Kenda K761 with 5K miles on it. It's got a LOT of rubber left, but the center voids are about gone. This is just how the K761 is. The center voids are very shallow, even when new. I'm going to re-groove the center voids to full depth and cut a few sipes in the center blocks for better rain manners, then open up the voids between the side blocks a little for better grab offroad. It was around $60, and has actually performed pretty well for the riding I do. For the mileage I've already gotten out of it at this price, I can afford to experiment with it a bit at this point.
I'll let you all know how the grooving and siping turns out.
Any chance of before and after pics?
Thanks Grifter, I keep one of those mental 'tool boxes' too.
Well, here's what my front looked like last week.
I'll take some pics before, during and after cutting on the rear K761.
Running something soft through the jet may not yield desirable results, as it is not likely to remove all of whatever deposits that may be present. Remember that the area of the bore is small enough where even a small amount of remaining deposits can make a significant impact in terms of percentage change.
Just a reminder that the DJ mains are sized differently than Mikuni mains.
Well I picked up my new bike today. It is a beaut!
I broke it in using the Motoman technique: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
I had bought my last one used and had no idea how it was broken in but I decided to go this route for my new one as it makes a lot of sense to me and I don't have the patients to follow the factory break in.
So I took off and hit the back roads near my house. I rode it as recommended and by the time I got home it was noticeably more powerful.
So I changed the brand new oil out for brand new oil(ouch), but I'm glad I did, there was all kinds of junk in the filter. A lot of it looked like plastic, very little metal. I will change the oil again after a few hundred more miles just to be on the safe side.
After the oil change I stripped it down and removed the kick stand safety switch and clutch safety switch as well as removing the upper chain roller (filled the hole) and replaced the lower roller with a bearing type roller.
I took it for another spin after completing all of this and noticed an immediate improvement in shifting due to the semi-syn oil. I don't know what the dealership puts in there but based on everything else they do I imagine it is the cheapest crap they can get their hands on. I don't trust anyone at the dealer to know their a$$ from a hole in the ground so I plan on repacking all the bearings and re-torquing everything as time allows.
Brief rant: I paid six grand for a brand new bike and when I went to pick it up it was filthy! Not like it had been ridden but like it had sat around for a year (its an '11 so it did) and they had to truck it over from Nevada in a pickup and then didn't even bother to wash it. I also found it to be missing one of the little rubber exhaust stand-offs that bolts to the side plastic, hopefully they will get me one without hassle. Then when I went to the parts department to get oil change stuff they didn't have a filter in stock! They carry three different brands and were out of all three. I found one at the small bike shop near my house and got the same oil there for two bucks less per quart. I will not be going back to the dealer unless it is absolutely necessary. Rant over.
Over all I am totally happy with my bike (I should be since I had the same thing before and loved it). The only comment I would make is that it should come with a 14t front. I had forgotten how over geared it is with the 15t. I had swapped to a 14t on my last bike after a few thousand miles and never went back. I cant imagine were I would want a 15t, maybe if I commuted on the Autobahn...?
Anyway, I'm just all giddy and had to spill to people I new would understand.
It does help when the fuel level is not high from a worn out float needle and the emulsion tube is not worn out.
jessepitt....Congrats! Unfortunate that your local dealer is missing attention to detail and parts needs but it seems maybe you found a more helpful shop as a result. Enjoy the ride....again.
Sounds like your dealer crew are meth heads. I know we get a lot of that up near the CA/OR border.
But don't worry about greased bearings ... dealers don't do that. Dealers typically hire a "set up" company to uncrate new bikes and build them. The bikes are basically all built in Japan, only a few things are taken off for shipping.
The Set UP company install: batt, front wheel, brake caliper, handlebars, mirrors and seat, front cowl and side panels. They are supposed to "go over" the bike and check torque ... and then the actual selling dealer is required (by law I think) to do a PDI again before actual delivery to you.
If American Suzuki knew about the "dirty bike" they would have a word with your dealer. Unacceptable.
But good to double check tightness on important items. I have found loose caliper bolts, (this is a biggy), loose axle bolts, loose top stem nuts and loose triple clamp bolts. (do not over tighten these) Be sure to check tire pressures too!
The dealer oil i'm sure is OK. And it only did 40 miles ... so who cares?
Grease should be OK everywhere. Suzuki are pretty good. You won't find huge glops of grease ... but usually ... just enough.
This bike is no brainer easy! Have fun.