the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. jugglingogre

    jugglingogre Exocet Wallaby Target

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    With my 105kg (230lbs) + gear, a couple of kg's can is really not going to make a hell of a lot of difference. Me eating less might have a much bigger impact on performance:lol3
  2. TRAVELGUY

    TRAVELGUY Old Traveler

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    Changed to the Ti GSXR can a few weeks ago. Using my digital scales there is a 6 lbs 4 oz weight savings weighting both then GSXR muffler and mid pipe aganist the stock DR muffler. Made no changes to carb jetting. Mileage nor performance seemed to change. So if you want to save 6 lbs 4 oz make the change. I liked the quite of the stock pipe but wanted the weight savings since I always over pack when traveling.

    TravelGuy.

  3. toddiscdn

    toddiscdn Take off, EH!

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    Its a little slow on the night shift tonight so I broght the DR in and put it on the scales out of curiosity.

    Mostly stock, 08 DR, IMS tank=less than half full, , Dirtbagz rangers and racks, rear rack with wolfman peak bag, wolfman enduro tank bag, small gps, vapor, blah, blah, blah.....

    Anywho it came out to 388 lb.s, better than I though. The gas is quite low though, likely 1.5 gals. left or so.


    Things you do to kill time on the night shift eh!:lol3
  4. jugglingogre

    jugglingogre Exocet Wallaby Target

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    Took the sprocket cover off to check if it needed a degrease this arvo.....

    Glad I did.

    [​IMG]

    Missing one bolt completely, one is oh so loose (left) and the third (right) is moving. This could have been oh so bad. Sprocket moves if it's wiggled.

    Hopefully the missing one is not snapped off and in the drive.

    Cheers

    Pete
  5. Kommando

    Kommando Long timer

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    A LOT has come into the DR aftermarket in the last few years. Some people are now making over 50WHP with these engines, through big-bore kits, cams, big-valve heads, and other mods.

    Check out www.kientech.com and www.procycle.us for many of the popular performance mods. A popular air/fuel setup is an FCR39 or a TM40 flat-slide pumper carb, a GSX-R X40F0X muff with Kientech midpipe, a foam airfilter (Uni, TwinAir, etc.), and a cut airbox. Some people are also experimenting with EFI.
  6. TrophyHunter

    TrophyHunter Long timer

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    Emmbeedee - sorry to hear the ride was cut short but probably the prudent choice. Just a hint on turning in the rental if you have a choice. Check how much it costs to turn it in at different return locations. Some are overstocked on certain trucks/trailers and charge you more to drop it there vs 5 - 10 miles away. I rented a car trailer one way and saved 30% by driving 4 miles.

    It's good the two of you get out together.
  7. thetable

    thetable Long timer

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    Any warning. My tard is currently leaking at the seal when she gets hot, I'd rather not find myself hot in a corner with a well lubricated rear tire.
  8. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    No warning but it usually happens to a cold engine. Like first thing in the morning.
  9. thetable

    thetable Long timer

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    Far better that way. I mean, it makes for a crappy day regardless, but better that way than any other. I've known of a couple DRZSMs to lose the countershaft seal while everything is good and hot.
  10. JagLite

    JagLite Long timer

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    One bolt will work fine actually. There is no load on the bolts and the sprocket can move around on the spline without problem. Some people use a snap ring (C-clip) instead of the bolt plate. The missing bolt just fell out on the ground and it may have been many miles ago.The 14-15-16 tooth sprockets use a 3 bolt retainer generally, the 13 tooth uses a 2 bolt retainer and they all work fine. Stock has a rubber gasket for anti-rattle I believe but is not required.

    The important thing is to not have the sprocket come off the shaft, which I don't know if it can with the sprocket cover on. So, no worries.
    Get a new bolt and use blue loctite and you can move on to real worries like running out of gas.
  11. sandwash

    sandwash Long timer

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  12. MeterPig

    MeterPig Meh

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    I picked up the dt-1 filter. It's my opinion the dt-1 meets my expectations better than the twin air filter. And it's the same price as the twin air on procycle's site.
  13. smilin jack

    smilin jack Grandpa Adventurer

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    Yes blue loctite is your friend. Pretty much every threaded fastener on my DR gets a TINY amount to keep the bolt from vibrating loose.

    Wilco farm stores have a HUGE assortment of metric screws, bolts and fancy fasteners. Check them out. No I don't work for them... just shop there.

    Dave
  14. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Actually, we did save $106 by returning the truck to a different depot than the one nearest us. It was more like 50km farther, but in a direction we needed to go anyway to try to find some parts and oil.

    But thanks for the suggestion.

    The really funny part of the truck rental was that the depot couldn't get the U-Haul web site up to get me a price until I offered to tether my iPhone to their laptop. Then the site came in beautifully.
  15. NoHillsNoTrees

    NoHillsNoTrees mostly upright

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    I too have had that seal blow out. I was told by a Suzuki factory mechanic, that it comes down to one of two things: 1) Scrag blocking the oil hole in the counter shaft. That hole being blocked up increases the oil pressure in there and it has to give somewhere i.e. that seal. OR 2) Oil viscosity. I was using a 20W 50 oil and on cold mornings this was too thick to move through the system and, again, that pressure has to give somewhere. Before you put the new seal in check for scrag and/or your oil viscosity or you may keep having the same problems. (I think the book says 10W or 15W.) Cheers, Pete.
  16. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave Backyard Adventurer

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    You've got me feeling even better about using Rotella T-6 now, but what is Scrag?
  17. NordieBoy

    NordieBoy Armature speller

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    They can also blow out if Suzuki has machined the holes too big.
  18. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    The problem happened shortly after I switched to 20W50 oil, so I think that is probably the reason it happened on this bike. I checked and it looks like the oil passageway is clean, so I put the original seal back in with three dabs of JB Weld to hold it since I can't find seals in town, and need to order them in. I also went back to 10W40 oil.

    [​IMG]
  19. Tech23

    Tech23 Been here awhile

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    Just curious, what was the temperature outside when the seal came out? I've been running 20W-50 and haven't had any problems. The owners manual says 20W-50 can be used at a minimum temperature of 14* F ( minus 10 C ) I ride in the Arizona desert and we rarely see 14*F here. I switched from 10W-40 because in this heat the transmission felt like the 10w-40 thinned out like water and didn't cushion the gears. I put in the 20W-50 and the transmission shifts much smoother.

    Tech23
  20. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Wasn't cold, I'd say it was about 12C.

    The seal stayed in today. Went about 300 km.