the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. doug s.

    doug s. Long timer

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    from wiki:
    "Taglang La, elevation 5,328 metres (17,480 ft), is a high mountain pass located in Ladakh region of the Indianstate of Jammu and Kashmir.

    The elevation in metres, which is taken from a local sign, is in agreement with SRTM data. The sign incorrectly claims 17582 feet, which would be 5359 metres, and incorrectly claims the worldÂ’s second highest motorable pass. It is reached via 21 Gata loops along the Leh-Manali Highway.

    There are higher motorable passes at Kaksang La, Chang La, Khardung La and several more locations in Tibet."

    still - WERY cool!!! :clap

    doug s.,
    jealous, at work in some orifice building basement in downtown dc...
  2. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Had to go to 2 different dealers to get the shims I needed for my DL the last time I did a valve adjustment plus 1 other dealer didn't have any of the ones I needed. What's hilarious, I get my shims for my 690 from the local Harley dealer and they have a well stocked shim kit. What's really funny, the shims from the Harley dealer run $2.50, the shims from the the Jap dealers are anywhere from $6 to $7.50. :lol3
  3. Mobiker

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    When I owned Harleys parts were always very reasonaby priced compared to Japenese bike parts.
  4. fastdadio

    fastdadio Still gettin faster

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  5. Porky

    Porky Don't Pass Gas

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    +Harley dealers have lots and lots of parts in stock.

    Had to order a clutch cable from the local dealer for my DR.:eek1 In his words, "we don't normally stock any cables".
  6. procycle

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    If the Japanese used the same parts since 1938 like Harley does then of course it would be easy to keep them in stock.

    This is not an exaggeration. I just looked up (at random) the oil pump for a 2012 Sportster. one item is a fitting - part number 63533-41A. That '-41A' at the end of the number means it was first used in 1941. Same part still being used in current production bikes 70 years later. That kind of part longevity makes it easy to keep parts in stock and keep part prices low. It also means you give up a lot of improvement and innovation.

    Japanese brand motorcycle dealer parts departments have an nearly impossible task. We want them to always have the parts we need on hand but the economics of the business don't allow that. When I started in the motorcycle parts business back in the early 80s our rule of thumb to justify keeping an item in stock was it has to make at least 4 turns per year. That means if you only sold 2 or 3 VF750S Saber speedometer cables per year stocking them would be a money loosing decision. In these modern days of shrinking margins the things you keep on hand better move faster than that if you want to stay in business.

    A current mid sized dealer might sell a million dollars in parts per year. That sales volume might justify around $200,000 of inventory. A good parts manager has to spend that money wisely. There are probably well over a thousand Suzuki cable part numbers. Will the DR650 clutch cable make the cut? Doubtful, especially when the dealer can have a factory cable delivered in a few days or an aftermarket equivalent in a day or two.

    When I went to work for a Honda dealer in 1982 Honda had 52 motorcycle & ATV models for sale that year alone. Of course they offer new models or changes to old models every year. The more we get of new models and improvements to old models the more more new part numbers are generated and the more difficult it becomes for the dealer to have any meaningful stock of replacement parts.

    We can complain all we want about dealers not having parts in stock but that is not going to change any time soon. What has changed and is continuing to improve is the time it takes to get those parts from the parts warehouse to the buyer.
  7. TRAVELGUY

    TRAVELGUY Old Traveler

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    +1 :clap:clap

  8. thetable

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    I had similar experiences with Buell. Hated having to weave my way through the weekend pirates and having to wait for the guy in front of me trying to figure out which chrome polish was the best, but the parts prices were reasonable. I'm starting to think that the Japanese brands sell many of the bikes as loss leaders just to make money on parts afterwards.
  9. neo1piv014

    neo1piv014 ADV in training

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    Speaking of ordering parts, has anyone here ever done business with RegulatorRectifier.com? All the forum posts I've read said that they were the place to go for things like, say, a pulser coil. I placed an order with them and Procycle on the same day last week on Friday or Saturday. I get order confirmation emails from both almost immediately. Come Monday morning, I have a "your product has shipped" notice from Procycle. As of yesterday, the Procycle order has arrived and I still haven't heard anything back from the regulatorrectifier.com folks. I'm normally not too fussy about ordering parts, but I do hate seeing my bike up on stands in the garage instead of out riding. So has anyone else had any experience with them in the past?
  10. maynard911

    maynard911 Been here awhile

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    My experience also.
  11. thetable

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    Odd, when I look up that part number, I get "Product ID: 63533-41A, FITTING, STRAIGHT" from one site, and from another "FITTING, STRAIGHT, W/SEALANT (63533-41A)", with a price between $3.99 and 3.75. I'm pretty sure that isn't an oil pump. I'm no fan of HD and their business practices, but it seems pushing it with the misinformation.
  12. maynard911

    maynard911 Been here awhile

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    Read Procycle's comment more carefully, especially the part that says " I just looked up (at random) the oil pump for a 2012 Sportster. one item is a fitting - part number 63533-41A".
  13. thetable

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    I still see the statement as misleading. Imagine if Suzuki were to put the year on their parts, well other than making crossrefferencing much easier, we'd be able to see that Suzuki has been using the same banjo bolt in the brakes since before time started. Seriously, it's a straight fitting, and it has been updated at least once since Harley went to the current part numbering system (the A at the end.)

    I do appreciate all the work that Procycle has done for DR parts, but of all the reasons to bad mouth HD, that's reaching.
  14. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    I have to agree... the 705's for me are damn near silent. When I ran 606's on my DR650, their whine was audible over the wind noise (with earplugs in).

    I run Kenda Trackmaster II's on my KLX250S, and they while pretty good too on the road, but I'm not sure they're as loud as the 606's.

    Rob
  15. Richguzzi

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    I personally did not see where anyone was bad mouthing HD. Even for making the same part since 1941 is that really a bad thing?
  16. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    I'd hardly call what Procycle said as bad mouthing. :dunno
  17. Rob.G

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    While I'm no fan of Harleys (more due to their excessive Bling factor and the fact that many of their proponents are in it more for the image than for the ride), I can appreciate the "old" parts that never change. The Japanese tend to reinvent everything every 4-6 years just for the sake of reinventing it. I say, if it ain't broke, don't reinvent it. But then you can't really laud Harley for this to keep costs low because their bikes are massively overpriced (IMO).

    Crap I don't remember where I was going with this. Oh well. Love that DR650! :)

    Rob
  18. Tech23

    Tech23 Been here awhile

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    Really it's a damn fitting, how long did the Military use the Willy's. Theres something to be said for parts interchangeability...hey wait a minute, when was the last time time frickin DR got an update? I think they went from a junky under the perch clutch switch to a plunger style a few years back...oooh.....ahhhhh, lets not forget the BNG they get every other year or so. I could be wrong about this too but it might be possible that HD sells a few more bikes than Suzuki sells DR's.

    <table border="0" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="2" width="100%"><tbody><tr valign="middle"><td style="border-left:1px solid #e5e5e5;border-bottom:1px dotted #e5e5e5;padding:2px" align="center">[​IMG] </td> <td style="border-bottom:1px dotted #e5e5e5;" width="100%"> Straight Male Gas/Oil Fitting, Chrome OEM 63533-41A SKU 40-0566

    </td></tr></tbody></table>I'm not sure any improvement is even necessary here. I'd be willing to listen to suggestions though. Been the same for 70 years... go figure.


    You can cross reference Suzuki parts quite easily if you are creative in your online searches.

    Tech23
  19. sandwash

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    Well............that the hey,parts are parts,just be lucky that you can get them in a some what timely manner.Sheeesh:baldy
  20. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    Hehe, my wife and I definitely have no restraint when it comes to bikes. I think we have 8 in the garage right now. :lol3 She really doesn't seem to mind since she just got a 2012 Ducati Monster 696 about a month ago. :evil