the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. neo1piv014

    neo1piv014 ADV in training

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    My buddy ran T63's on his KLR, and it handled a 1000+ mile trip that was 99.9% pavement without any complaints. After that, they still had plenty of tread left for us to go messing around in the desert. They aren't going to be great in the soft sand, but I don't think any 'dual sport' tire is going to be worth much in deep, soft crap.


    I run 705's on my DR650, and they're very awesome for what they advertise as being capable of. They're a solid 75/25 street/dirt combo, and if all you do is harder packed stuff, they won't let you down. Considering you can get a set of these tires shipped for the price of a single D606 rear, they're a complete steal. Still, if you want something offroad oriented, the 700's or 244's might be more worth consideration.
  2. NC Rick

    NC Rick Cogent Dynamics Inc

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    If anyone has a nice condition set of stock DR650 forks available, we would really like to have a set. Cash or trade for suspension work...

    Rick
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  3. Bronco638

    Bronco638 Nobody Home

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    BergDonk (Steve) is making counter-shaft seal retainers. His first production run is complete and already spoken for. I would like one and if (at least) 5 others are interested, I'll be point man for another 6 units (or more).

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    I am not going to require any up-front money as long as your word is good. :D I have this posted in three different places. So, if you're interested, please send a PM to me. Common sense says to create a new "group buy" thread where I'll keep a running tally of who's in. Once we have (at least) 6, I'll place an order with Steve.

    The price will be $40 for the retainer plus a portion of what it costs to get them from Oz to the US and then from me to you. I would imagine ~$50 each?
  4. Lil' Steve

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  5. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    :D I thought of you right away. New seat is the bomb. Did 110 miles with Viverid today You are the used parts guru.:clap
  6. Lil' Steve

    Lil' Steve PussyWagon™ Chauffer

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    I really should start getting rid of stuff. I've collected way too much over the years.
    Nice day for a ride, hope you and Vince had fun.
  7. FuzzyNugs

    FuzzyNugs Adventurer

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    I just got mine in the mail tonight and they look very well made. Should be sturdy enough to withstand crashes and the finish is a glossy black. I'll be mounting them up in the morning with 720 seahorse cases and will post a pic tomorrow.

    Did a quick bathroom scale check and the racks, crossbar, and mounting hardware come out to 8lbs even. Not terrible in my opinion.
  8. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    Regarding the 690. Where did you get that from ? I own a DR and love it and my buddy owns a 690 that I ride from time to time. The fact is it vibrates no more or less then our DR's and maintenance is stupid simple. It's not the 950 adventure. I could buy a 690 tomorrow if I wished but I don't because the DR does it for me. Now if you said the DR was more reliable then I could agree with you. But the vibe and maintenance comments are just incorrect. keep it real eh ?
  9. isaac004

    isaac004 Been here awhile

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    So yesterday I got around to making the modification described above. After draining some oil and pulling the spring out, I had to compress the fork while it was upside down in a oil pan, and slowly compress the fork to get the Intiminators out. Well not once but TWICE did I end up spraying oil all over the floor as it shot down with force into the oil pan. I should have built a little cardboard wall/fort around the pan so I did not have to spent half a hour wiping off of everything.

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    I removed about 1mm from each oil ring, and as I put everything back together it was MUCH easier to slide the Intiminators back in the forks. Now I had hopes. After finishing off the re-assembly with Maxima 5wt oil, I bolted everything back together. Time for the moment of truth...

    ..and no dice. It feels and sounds exactly the same as before. :baldy

    Not sure what to do at this point. Might be a good time to upgrade to Gold Valves for slightly better off road performance! :rofl
  10. Paddle007

    Paddle007 Been here awhile

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  11. ER70S-2

    ER70S-2 Long timer

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    This takes me back many years. Short story: I had a 65 pound black standard poodle, he was my best bud (got me thru my divorce). :nod One day I had to do an oil change and I used an 18" diameter open top drain pan with 4" sides. So I got the oil drained and wondered "Where do I put this where I won't trip over it?" Aha, I'll just slide it under the boat trailer tongue (in the garage). Bear was allowed to wander the house and yard thru his dog door. I went in to watch football. During half time, I went to check on him and wandered into the garage. There must have been 1000 dog prints on the concrete floor. :baldy How my best buddy managed to get both his front feet into that oil pan is beyond me. :scratch Spent an hour with toxic chemicals cleaning the garage floor. At least he didn't come in the house. :clap
    No, he did not get yelled at, nor blamed. :nono

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    Crap. I was tempted to try the Intiminators, just 'cause. Now, not so much. :puke1 I do like my emulators. :nod
  12. planemanx15

    planemanx15 Long timer

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    Probably not intimidators, I don't have them and I'm still having this issue.
  13. ER70S-2

    ER70S-2 Long timer

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    Stock springs? If so, what do you weigh? I'm about 205 ready to ride (boots, coat, pants, etc). I shimmed my fork preload; started with 1/2", which was too much. So I tried 1/4", but it wasn't enough. I would have been happy at 3/8" but decided to go with Eibach .45 springs and RT emulators. Adding preload is free. :D
  14. Feelers

    Feelers Been here awhile

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    Did you fill the forks with fork oil to above the damping rods and cycle the shock several times before dropping in the intiminators and completing the filling?
    Did you fill while the forks were fully compressed?
    Are your caliper bolts tight?
    Is your steering head nut torqued to spec?
    If you are sure you installed everything right, I'd experiment with these suggestions:
    First, open the caps , take out the spacers, put in new spaces 2x the length of the old ones, screw the caps on and try the bounce test.
    If no difference, open the caps, and add some extra oil, screw the caps down and give it the bounce test.
    If no difference, open the caps and remove the oil you just poured in and remove some additional oil - a turkey baster might work great if it's long enough. Give it the bounce test again.

    Let us know the results.
  15. ER70S-2

    ER70S-2 Long timer

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    I was happy with the stock oil volume (19.1 oz). I believe that's 6.5". That was with .45 Eibach's + emulators. But when I installed Procycle's Magic, way more stronger 320mm rotor, the fork dive was almost as bad as the stock springs. :cry

    I've never been happy with having to measure fork oil height with the springs out; what a PITA. :huh Clear back when I had my DT-1B air forks were being experimented with. It was one of the mods available to us back then (Fred Flintstone was my buddy). Maybe it was Dirt Bike magazine that did an article on completely removing the fork springs and using air to suspend the bike. It was an easy and cheap experiment; drill and tap the fork caps, install schrader(?) valves, add air. Even back then, I had to farkle (35 years before I ever heard the word farkle). :gerg

    This is what I ended up with, it's over in the DR Index, but WTF; now it's here again.

    Use a 1/8 NPT tap. Ignore the forks being slipped up in the triple, it's just an experiment.

    Copied and pasted from the Index; Suspension / Chassis:
    Then I use one of these with a zip tie loose enough to slide up-n-down. Now I can adjust my oil level without disassembly, which came in handy when I put a 320mm rotor on the front. The brake works so much better that the fork dive with .45 Eibachs, was too much for my liking. Stock oil level is 16-1/8" (forks fully extended, with springs and caps installed), I added 20ml and ended up at 14-7/8". That's 1 1/4" or 5/8" per 10ml. You don't even have to move your handi-bars, way better than removing the springs and collapsing the forks everytime you want to experiment with oil levels. :nod

    More info here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14708492&postcount=19

    But in your case (Intiminators and heavier springs), fork dive isn't an issue. So none of this matters. :huh If you aren't bottoming out frequently and you're ok with whatever fork dive, I'm thinking the stock 19.1oz (for accuracy) is good.

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    My turkey baster:
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  16. Rugby4life

    Rugby4life Been here awhile

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  17. NordieBoy

    NordieBoy Armature speller

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    Did you add a spacer after removing the Intiminators?
  18. planemanx15

    planemanx15 Long timer

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    Progressive springs from procycle. 200 ready to ride. How can you tell if you have the right amount of preload? I don't have the noise that isaac004 has, but the springing back to the top issue.

    nordieboy: never had Intimidators. Thinking about getting them to solve the brake dive.
  19. planemanx15

    planemanx15 Long timer

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    In other news, I finally got to ride after a wet week. I was able to put my rear through its paces again with the new oil and spring. There is no off roading near me (that's legal, and as a soon to be federal employee I refuse to chance it). The bike is so much more controlled, and it actually feels like it has a more aggressive stance. The power delivery now is Great since the rear doesn't dive when twisting the throttle. The front wheel is in the air now, a lot lol.

    I've learned that more power is nice, but how you control that power makes all the difference.
  20. Escaped

    Escaped Been here awhile

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    Well my Intiminators work great, brake dive eliminated, better on and off road performance:clap

    I believe isaac004 said he bought his used, so maybe there is an issue with his set? :ddog