the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    Do you mean the pinch bolts on the fork tubes ... or the 4 pinch bolts at the front axle plate? NEITHER should be over torqued.

    The Axle pinch bolts WILL SNAP OFF if over torqued. Lots of examples here. The Axle itself uses a high torque value ... not sure what it is but it's very tight. But NOT the 4 little clamp nuts ... be careful with those.

    The Fork tube Pinch bolts on Upper and Lower triple clamps also should NOT be super tight? Why? Over tightening will Squash the delicate Alu fork tubes ... and ruin them. Follow Suzuki's torque numbers.

    The Top Nut is 1 1/4" ... forgot MM equivalent. (inch and a quarter)

    To test if steering head bearing tension are properly adjusted ... raise front of bike UP until front tire is clear. Try to keep bike more or less level.
    Steering should go full left to full right easily and freely with NO drag.
    You can also grab front wheel and pull on it and try to feel for any slack.

    If steering is dragging, then Top Nut must come off and the adjuster below that needs to be carefully adjusted. Make sure the order of washers and adjuster nuts are all in correct order. Don't mix them up. You could also raise steering stem UP and check your shop put in enough grease. Don't over grease or over pack these bearings.

    Good luck!
  2. TrophyHunter

    TrophyHunter Long timer

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    Skunkwizard - nicely done and very functional. Knowing your talents, you probably did that in your sleep.

    Torque values - from memory - Axle: 47 lb ft "Pinch" bolts: 7 lb ft - My wrench doesn't go that low so I got an INCH lb one and do 84 in lbs.
  3. dljocky

    dljocky Been here awhile

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    Thanks fr the reply Grifter,
    yes, the axle pinch nuts, the four nuts down by the axle, they were super tight. A lot more than the 5 ft lbs I tighten them. I've read about these being snapped off! And the axle(47 ft lbs I believe) was so tight, I couldn't loosen it without stepping on it and bouncing. And I'm a big guy.


  4. Dirtmonkey8

    Dirtmonkey8 VA is for Riders

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    That stinks, dljocky. Did you go to Redline again? From my memory the upper and lower triple pinch bolts have different torque settings. You should check and re-tighten those to proper spec too. Sorry to hear about your shop visit. Freaks me out too when someone has been wrenching on my bike. An uneasy feeling about a bike is stressful.
  5. eakins

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    go with the wide man rack and mount a tool tube on the underside of the rack.
    i replaced my stock tool tube with a larger one.
  6. DR650SEDDY

    DR650SEDDY ride2discover

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    I remember doing it last year myself, just like Adv Grifter mentionned with getting that pinch nut adjsuted it should never be over tighten and how stiff ur steering can be is uppon rider's desire. What u should do if u have time is to drop ur front end where u can see both bearing and look inside the frame to see if they replace the base of bearings (rounded metal o-ring conic shape-or bearing sets) they suppose to go under both bearings (lower/upper). Some lazy mechanics tend to disregard replacing bearing sets which render the use of bearings meaningless. In this pix it's on the top right (sitting over da bearing). There is special press u can buy cheap from Harbor Freight to get them out.
    I thing the top nut of 3tree is 32 or 34mm. Good luck.

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  7. dljocky

    dljocky Been here awhile

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    Dirtmonkey8,
    No, I went to the other shop. Thanks for the information, I'm checking it all out tomorrow.

    DR650SEDDY, I'm going to drop the front end like you suggested


  8. eakins

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    sunthechip Been here awhile

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    Does anyone know how this is done? ----- The metal parts are all black. [​IMG]
  10. TrophyHunter

    TrophyHunter Long timer

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    Tool tube: Looks like he uses the popular agri-supply tube. The clamp looks like a clean application. For the price at agri supply, I ordered 6 of 'em for my family's machines. Chop the mounts off as he mentions and hit the graphics with some brake cleaner and it wipes right off. I ordered an exhaust clamp to mount it with. The one linked looks like a cleaner set up from the photos.

    http://www.agrisupply.com/manual-canister-large-with-neoprene-seal/p/67670/&sid=&eid=/

    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-33226/overview/


    Eakins - I saw your Utah motorcycle map for sale at the lodge in Zion Natl Park. Very nice product. Looks well researched and extremely useful. I'll be buying your complete set for some upcoming trip planning. I'll also look forward to your input in the planning on my 2014 ride.... http://www.cannonballproject.com/content/

    Sun - my guess is a combo of rattle can engine paint, regular paint and possibly some powder coating?
  11. Garak

    Garak Cardassian Spy

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    I had one of mine snapped at a shop. Incidentally, that was the last time I took my bike to a shop. I'm not the worlds greatest mechanic but when I work on my own bike, at least I know the job is being done with care and attention.
  12. Chill

    Chill Been here awhile

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    There must be some sort of heat resistant paint for this. The people at Deus Ex Machina seem to do this a lot with their customs, you could contact them and ask. http://deuscustoms.com/
  13. shootis

    shootis Been here awhile

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    Hi Trophy Hunter,

    I checked out the link for the clamp, I noticed its 2.5" diameter.

    This one is 3.5" : http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-33273/overview/

    The tube specs out at 3.25", I would think we'd need the larger one. Could you confirm this?

    Thanks!!
  14. Skidmarkart

    Skidmarkart Dirty Middle Age Man

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    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    Front axle clamp bolts/nuts 8-10nm. No more.
    And if they didnt replace the races with the bearings (and thats the most difficult part of the job) they just wasted your time and money. At this point your races should like clean, meaning no scarring. If you see dark, segmented scars, they are the old ones and will ruin your new stem bearing in short order.
  16. TrophyHunter

    TrophyHunter Long timer

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    Yup - linked wrong one....thx for the fix. I'm out of town so I can't verify it exactly but your choice definitely makes more sense.
  17. Mongle

    Mongle Knuckle dragger

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    Someone bought themselves a home powder coat kit..:lol3

    They make a high heat ceramic powder coat for exhaust as well. Works good for keeping the heat inside the pipe.
  18. eakins

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    of course but come on. can't the man make a few bucks for his clean up work on the tool tube? it's $45 for the complete bolt on package & his clamp is very well built. it's the best tool-tube based setup i've seen. i've ridden hard with it for over a year and it's heavy and packed w/ tools. the clamp still looks new and is rock solid. look at his drz400 skid plate work. this guy has incredible skills. works for me. http://www.weld86motoparts.com/Suzuki-DRZ.html

  19. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    Sure, he can make a profit, but it's nice to know just how easy it is to do it your self. BTW, IMHO, Skunkwizard's Tool Tube is FAR better. Sadly I don't think he makes them for sale.

    Why do I like it?
    1. It Oval, fits the space better, I mount a soft pannier there so needs to be low profile like the tube shown.
    2. It locks. I suppose some sort of lock can be rigged on the Agri supply tubes ... not sure what would be best. But a LOCK is important if you travel.

    Basically what I want in a tool tube is something very similar to stock .. but
    deeper, longer. I like to keep my soft bags as INBOARD as possible, not sticking way out like so many do. Inboard, low and forward is what works.
    Check out Walter Colebatch's comments on this vital part of weight distribution so many seem to neglect.

    I'm guessing that if Skunkwizard's tube was for sale ... it would have to cost in the $100 range?
  20. Thumper Dan

    Thumper Dan Been here awhile

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    Wouldn't this process make the motor run hotter?? I'm no expert but having to put several layers of paint over the engine wouldn't seem that productive. :huh