the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. DisTech

    DisTech Been here awhile

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    Damper Rod tool
  2. acesandeights

    acesandeights Asperger

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    They are Fly Aero tapered bars, and the left is certainly larger than the right, mayb 1000s of an inch but what slides over the right side does not slide over the left side. I can't be the only one using these bars with this issue, right? How'd you all get the choke lever on the bars?


    ETA: I got it on. I had to use a hammer and used a 15/16 socket over the bar end. It shaved the inside of the choke lever as I (gently) pounded on the socket, sliding the choke lever on. I'm surprised the bars are slightly different diameters from the left and right, oh well.
  3. VooDooDaddy

    VooDooDaddy Been here awhile

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    PS is absolutely correct. There is the possibility a warranty would not be honored if it were conclusive that a modification was in some way a causal factor in the failure leading to the warranty claim.

    Examples: (1) I install an IMS gas tank on my DR, and the "infamous" third gear blow-up thingy happens to my bike; how did the change of gas tank cause the third gear failure? It simply doesn't. (2) I put a set of Pro-Taper bars on my DR, and a short time later the engine chews up a camshaft that wasn't getting proper oil flow to the cylinder head? Again, one has nothing to do with the other.

    I dealt with this over the past summer, only with my wife's car. Going down the interstate at a steady 75mph, the engine decides to allow one of the connecting rods some R&R, thus punching a fist-sized hole in the bottom of the crankcase at less than 41,000 miles. Car gets towed to the dealership; service manager says that in order to warranty the engine replacement, he'll have to see all the receipts from the oil/filter changes I have done. "NO PROBLEM" I tell him. Then I tell him, he can certainly see them just as soon as he can show in some reasonable way that the catastrophic failure of the engine was an "oil' related problem.

    To make a long story short, he couldn't. There was no sludge in the engine, so scoring or measurable wear on any engine parts such as cams, followers, pistons, rings, main or rod bearings, etcetera.

    The warranty was honored and the engine replaced and no one ever again asked to see my receipts for oil changes, simply because one had nothing to do with the other! When I went to pick up the car after the engine was replaced and I asked the service manager what the cause of the rod failure, his simple answer/guess was improper connecting rod bolt torque? :huh
  4. TrophyHunter

    TrophyHunter Long timer

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    This type of response has always humored me, Just because someone is new to a site doesn't mean they're new to life, without knowledge and an opinion. Online "status" in a "community" is a strange phenomenon.

    Yup...occasionally a side subject pops in for a few pages and then this thread is back to DR's. No harm done. Plus, it was in reply to solving a DR riders need.

    Murcans? Really? Settle in, ndthl, it gets bumpier than this around here. Lots to learn, unless you've made your mind up already (random & loose Murcan refererence). :D
  5. trailrider383

    trailrider383 867-5309

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    Damper Rod Tool: 1" od square tubing long enough to reach the top of damper rod.

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  6. trailrider383

    trailrider383 867-5309

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  7. shu

    shu ...

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    Similar situation with my DR on an extended warranty. The stator went out while I was riding in the backcountry in Colorado. The local service advisor wanted me to provide all my work receipts.

    I had taken this bike for 20,000 miles through Turkey and Central Asia and done all the servicing myself (on schedule) but had no receipts. I told him when you buy a couple of quarts of oil in the bazaar you don't get a paper receipt. I had kept a written record of everything i had done, and he sent that in. The warranty company was fine with it and replaced the stator and paid for my towing.

    I was pleased with the whole experience.


    ............shu
  8. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    Spot On!!
    Anyone who has worked at a dealership will know warranties in the USA generally favor the consumer. In the UK, Oz and other places ... the above may not apply.
    It's really up to your dealer ... minor tuning mods generally will NOT void a warranty ... and the COURTS have been clear on this.
    I know in the UK they void warranties for the owner doing work on the bike or an unauthorized, non official mechanic working on the bike, plus the aforementioned non stock mods.

    But in the USA things are a bit different. You can do ALL work on your own bike here and its legit as long as you keep a maintenance log. Also, in my experience, minor modifications don't void warranties.

    Aftermarket warranty companies will avoid a lawsuit in most cases ... because they KNOW the judge will side with the consumer. If they depute the claim they typically end up settling. So either way the consumer gets paid ... albeit with a possible LONG delay.

    Out of the USA all bets are OFF unless you get lucky.
    REMEMBER GUYS: dealers get PAID for all warranty work (albeit at a reduced rate). So most good dealers want the work and will push to have the claim approved.
  9. shu

    shu ...

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    Thanks for this response. Well said.

    .............shu
  10. Feelers

    Feelers Been here awhile

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    I used these pieces and it worked great.

    18inch long piece of black 3/4inch I.D. pipe threaded on both ends

    4inch long piece of black 3/4inch I.D. pipe threaded on both ends

    1 90 degree elbow

    A threaded brass cap 1 1/8inch flat to flat. Which looks like this:

    http://s3.pexsupply.com/images/products/zoom/c74-147-1.jpg
  11. Sierra Thumper

    Sierra Thumper Been here awhile

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    That is kinda harsh VooDoo :eek1 but I can match you :lol3 If I'm going to spend 5200 bucks on a bike its going to be a clean low mileage KTM....you can do alot of used buying with 5200 bucks :evil
  12. S.ROB

    S.ROB n00b

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    I made it through the first 1900 pages. Can't lurk any longer, purchased my first DR in Feb of 2012.
    A 1990 250 sold it in April, purchased a Blue 2005 650 with 4200 miles two weeks later.
    Close to stock, I shimmed the needle,desnorkled. removed the brass cover off the air fuel mixture screw,
    KN air filter,renthal bars,acerbis hand guards,250 tail light. also in the process of making a skid plate.
    Thanks for the helpfull information. still got some pages to read.
    Scott
  13. poppawheelie

    poppawheelie Been here awhile

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  14. dickensheets

    dickensheets smprparatus

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    Murcan????

    Ok off to get the dictionary. Again. I wish I was more read sometimes.
  15. dickensheets

    dickensheets smprparatus

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    Ok I don't get it. WIKIPEDIA doesn't know about the Murcan. I feel left out. What's a murcan.
  16. barko1

    barko1 barko1

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    A region in the brain stem that is supposed to regulate sexual response. Dysfunction = trouble :evil
  17. sunthechip

    sunthechip Been here awhile

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    I was riding and the bike started to loose traction. I checked an there is a screw that went straight into the tire. I got my pump and put some air in the tire. The part with the screw in it isn't leaking any air, but the area around the tire nipple is. Any Idea what is going on?
  18. trailrider383

    trailrider383 867-5309

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    The screw punctured the tube and the air is coming out around the hole in the rim that the valve stem pokes through.
  19. joefromsf

    joefromsf Dark Happens

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    Screw went thru the tire and then punctured the tube. Air is leaking from the tube where the screw punctured it, but the path of least resistance to escape the tire is the gap around the nipple. The screw has made a pretty good seal in the tire.
  20. doug s.

    doug s. Long timer

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    while i dunno for sure, i can't imagine there'd be much (if any?) mods needed as the engines are identical except for the heads. if i were contemplating this swap, i'd be more interested in finding the dual-carb set-up from the xf rather than swapping heads to get your single carb to fit. the xf heads have bigger valves, why would you want the smaller valve heads of the dr?

    doug s.