the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. neo1piv014

    neo1piv014 ADV in training

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    So after a good test ride with the heated grips this morning in <10 degree weather, I've decided that heated grips are going to be mandatory on any bike I own in the future. If you don't have them, they're worth it.
  2. Mongle

    Mongle Knuckle dragger

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    < 10 in NM? The news doesn't have anything about Hell freezing over! :lol3

    As I get older I have decided I just don't want to ride bad enough to ride in below freezing! They would be nice on those days it gets cool and you forgot to pack the cold weather gloves!
  3. Feelers

    Feelers Been here awhile

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    Awesome! It does make for a lot easier and cheaper job with no cleanup. One reason I hated painting with aerosols is because the paint always sucked. I've tried many. Most of the acrylic enamels (most paint available) never really fully cure, which makes them a pain to use, a pain to cover, and takes forrrrrevvverrrr to get a finished product. I sprayed a second coat of the exact same paint 2 weeks after the first coat and there was a major reaction and it all bubbled up. It reacted with itself... :huh They sure advertise the hell out of it though to be tough and chip resistant. :puke1 Yeah, no crap! It's hard to chip something that isn't fully hardened.

    Anyway, most recently I used duplicolor lacquer as the base coat. Supposedly, it's not as durable as acrylic enamel, but it sprayed and went down beautifully, and doesn't take over a week to cure while dust and bugs get in it. And, I was covering it with the spraymax 2k clear anyway. So, instead of a crap job that took over two weeks, I had an excellent job completely dry and finished in under 48 hours.

    My point is just that acrylic enamel bites a big one.:deal
  4. biosci

    biosci Tumbleweed54473

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    I also have the DDM 35 watt 4500K bulb set-up. It's just easy, like these folks are saying, better light, and nice to have the extra 20 watts for heated gloveson my DR.
  5. neo1piv014

    neo1piv014 ADV in training

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    The DR might not get great mileage compared to a 250, but compared to my car, it saves enough money driving 40+ miles a day to work and back on it instead of in the car. I still won't do snow or ice, though.
  6. eakins

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    i've read their FAQ so why the 35W DDM kit vrs the 55w?
    just to save 20W? obviously the 35w kit puts out a ton of light but will the 55w put out even more (if saving those 20w are not an issue) and not damage the DR housing? anyone here run the 55w kit?
  7. eakins

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  8. eakins

    eakins Butler Maps

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    can you comment on the low vrs hi beam light spread?
    adv grifter is only running the low.
    do you ever use the hi and if so is there any up close light spread in addition to long distance light?

    either of you guys have a relay in place too with this kit?
    i have an eastern beaver relay and considering this kit.
    how's long term evaluation/reliabilty going?

    thnx
  9. George 99

    George 99 Been here awhile

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  10. rpet

    rpet Awesometown

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    And the DDM kit comes in 3K too... I hate the look of blue-white lights, and they are worse for glare in mist, I believe.

    At under $30 for the 55watts it's probably worth a try.
  11. ER70S-2

    ER70S-2 Long timer

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    Hiya George, thanks for the link. That guy has posted some great photos of his country.
  12. doug s.

    doug s. Long timer

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    i am using a baja designs fairing/headlight, which means that the standard shielded bulb that would fit in the dr headlight can't be used. so, my experience w/the light spread won't be relevant to most. to be honest, it's not wery good, but it is so much better than a stock 50/55w halogen in that headlight, it's not even funny; both high and low beam. i did not use a relay, not sure why you would need one, reducing the woltage... my bike does not get ridden that much cuz my present job isn't conducive for commuting, but the light hasn't failed in a year.

    but at this point, i am seriously considering installing true hid projector lighting. while not as expensive as one might think, it's still not cheap, and it's a definite project...

    http://www.theretrofitsource.com/index.php

    re: the 3000k lighting, while i have not seen anything other than pics on the web, i suspect it will be a little bit more yellow than even a stock halogen light; not sure i would like that. i am fine w/the4500k.

    doug s.
  13. procycle

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    35 watts of HID is about 5 times as much light as a standard H4 halogen bulb. It's seriously a lot of light. A 55 watt HID is overkill, especially if you spend much time driving in traffic.
  14. procycle

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    I think you mean vattage... :D
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    smilin jack Grandpa Adventurer

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    I put my Motion Pro blue tire clip on the bottom side of the rim (holds the B side bead in the groove), put two small blocks of 2X4 lumber outboard of the blue clip to also help hold side B bead in the groove, then put my knees on the side A of the tire so that bead also is in the groove. The tire almost falls on the rim... with spoons of course. Quick and easy after reading and learning from advrider.

    The Motion Pro bead breaker (big plastic chisel) works so well that it's used at home in the shop as well as the trail.

    Dave
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    NordieBoy Armature speller

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    You've just had coffee haven't you :D
  17. eakins

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    vattage & woltages...you guy are too technical for me. :scratch :D

    thnx on the 35w vr 55w input.
  18. Emmbeedee

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    You're velcome.
  19. gippyphil

    gippyphil Adventurer

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    Took the DR for a quick run up my (gravel) road with the new bars - feels great, and the extra height makes it way more comfortable to ride standing.

    It's about 40°C here today (105F) so time to hunker down in the house again!
  20. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    Won't damage housing ... HID run cool! :D ... but might damage the eyeballs of on coming traffic! :lol3

    I installed the DDM Tuning HID on my Tiger over two years ago. I went 35 watt based on what others had recommended. Some claimed with the 55 watt (SUPER BRIGHT) that too many people flashed him on the highway, even with the beam adjusted down. The Tiger guys used the 55 Watt for the Hi beam bulb. (Tiger has TWO headlights)

    When I got the 35 Watt for the Tiger I was pleased. But I DO plan to install
    the 55 Watt for the High Beam light.

    I think you could go with a single 55 watt on your DR but just make sure you aim the beam angle with you (and gear) on the bike. Also, some say it's SO BRIGHT, cops will U turn and come after you. :eek1 It you get the DUAL filament HID then you can switch back and forth ... but you'll have more wires to run back and forth from battery.

    Your choice. The plain old 35 Watt is roughly (to my eye) 3 times brighter than the standard 55 Watt H-4 bulb on the DR650. So big step up there.
    55 Watt would be AWESOME on a dark, lonely road ... or riding the Desert at night.

    And YES ... I was also thinking about saving juice on the DR when I picked the 35 Watt version. (my Tiger puts out about 450 Watts ... so no issues there) I have run my DR Battery dead on several occasions from running my Gerbing and grips on HI for too long at night. The 20 Watt saving does make a little difference ... no big deal.

    Good luck!