the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. psmcd

    psmcd Long timer

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    Thanks to both of you. Seems one of the Procycle guys was happy with 2.5, Guess we'll each be dialing in to a sweet spot. Anyone out there drill an additional low speed bleed hole to keep them plush with more preload? I wouldn't do this without riding it first with the heavier rear spring also. Just hoping for more competent but still compliant suspension.

  2. mill

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    Yep, I've got enough room to get on the broken stud with a pair of vice grips. I'll check Ace locally for the stud. Thanks for the tip. Btw, what year is your DR? I am curious to know if the fork design would happen to be the same. If I know the year, I could cross the entire fork leg on a parts fiche. Like I said, unfortunately the bike is not with me and is sitting in Mexico waiting for my return. I have no way of physically checking to make sure it will in fact thread out.
  3. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    Guys break those pinch bolt studs all the time. You can live with three of them no prob. Do not over torque them. If you work on your own bike in Alabama ... why would a "Carb" problem side line you? It's a simple device. Probably a clogged fuel filter or Pilot Jet or water or dirt in fuel. All doable side of road ... or by any decent Mexican mechanic. Never under estimate just HOW GOOD the Mexicans are with simple motors like the DR. They know their stuff.

    I hope you left your bike with someone you trust ... and are paying? If not, ... Bit of a risky proposition, IMO.

    Hopefully your bike is well prepped and set up to make Panama and back.
    I would not ship parts to Mexico ... they'll get stuck in Customs and you may never get them out. Hand carry them in yourself ... and bring all receipts in case they ask for them. They are real sticklers on this sort of thing. Trust me. (I hide most parts and don't declare anything)

    I hope your chain & sprockets are in good shape, hard to source there. Bring spare front sprocket, fork seals, rear brake pads, Carb jets (pilot and Main)tiny in line fuel filter, spare tubes and a rear tire if you need one. (expensive and hard to find good tires and tubes in Mexico)
    !que le via muy bien!
    Have a safe ride!
  4. NordieBoy

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    96-current is same.
  5. mill

    mill Adventurer

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    Thanks for all of the pointers. The float bowl o rings were faulty and flooding the plugs. We weren't able to source the proper size o rings, so we ended up sanding some down to get me to the destination. The bike is in a gated community with a friend of mines family. As of now, when I fly back I will bring new o rings, a larger tank, a new choke (mine broke), new pinch bolts. The rest of the items you mentioned, I already had with me and are stored on the bike. Oh....and I won't be bringing the bike back...its going to South America after Panama....and then hopefully to Africa and beyond :D

    I got back in from the trip 4/17/13 Wednesday morning at 2:00am. Once I am able to decompress for a bit, be looking for a rider report. There is a lot to tell about this leg of the journey!
  6. Minsk99

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    I had the same question as you on the bleed hole drilling. I would say that with 2.5 turns of preload, that it is not necessary to drill a third hole. Mine came with two holes pre-drilled and for my preferences, is adequate. I know that when Race Tech first shipped the Emulators, that they came without any bleed holes drilled.
  7. motolab

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    Do you mean the needle seat o-ring?
    Was there a significant time constraint?
    Is your DR650 equipped with a BST40 carburetor?

    Regards,

    Derek
  8. Adv Grifter

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    Awesome! You're a very lucky guy! Sounds like you've thought all this through well. :clap Good you caught the O rings. Should be an awesome ride. I lived in Guat. for two years. Lots to explore there. Have fun!
    Are you flying the Gap or ... Stahlratte? or ... ?
    Rubber Side Down ... the DR community's got your back! :freaky
  9. MEWanderer

    MEWanderer Dirt Road Runner

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    Does anyone have any first hand experience with motorcycle shipping companys? I need to get my DR back to Maine from AZ the middle of next month. Wish I had time to do a cross country trip, but my schedule is not going to allow it. Thanks in advance.
  10. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    1st class operation. Your bike will be there as you saw it last. And they pick and drop at your door. Get the AMA discount.
    I have used them many times.


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  11. phreakingeek

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    After searching around a while trying to find a replacement stud, I found it on mcmaster-carr.com. They sell a full assortment of metric stainless studs in a number of different lengths.

    If memory serves, you need M6x40 1mm pitch...i got the 18-8 since i doubt i need the added corrosion protection of the 316 (and it's about $7 more per stud!)
    http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/119/3149/=mdmmna



  12. refokus

    refokus Hmmmmmm

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  13. mill

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    No, the orings that seal the float to the carb body were dried out and cracked.

    Significant time restraints. The plan was to leave Los Angeles, CA Saturday morning, ride the entire Baja, hop the ferry overnight to Mazatlan, ride down the coast to Colima, and then circle back up to the MX-15. The goal was to be in Puebla the very next Friday or Saturday (one week). I was suppose to fly home Sunday to be back at work that Monday morning....didn't happen :lol3

    Yep, my DR650 is utilizing the the stock BST40.
  14. Otis357

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    Changing out the sprockets and chain on my 04 DR. Manual says to torque the mounting nuts to 19.5 lb-ft. It says nothing about using Loctite, but it sure seemed like there was some on there when I hear it pop on loosening the bolts. Wondering if a little dab of loctite on there is a good idea?

    Also, the rubber absorbers in the rear wheel are not broken or cracked, but are pretty hard. Should I bother replacing these or should they be OK?
  15. Adv Grifter

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    The bolts in question have loc tite on them from the factory. Suzuki recommend using NEW bolts ... but, IMO, you do not need to. I would use a dab of BLUE loc tite on them however. I've re-used the same nut/ bolts on 3 rear sprocket changes now.

    How old are your rubber dampers? If more than 3 years/20K miles I would change them out. You WILL feel the difference.
  16. spotlight

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    I would change the bushings and the bolts and if you have a castle-nut with a cotter pin I'd order the self torquing one from pro cycle makes chain adjustment a snap....be sure not to over tighten the chain....check it under load, And if you haven't removed the upper chain roller now is a good time to do so just find a bolt that fits back in the hole.
  17. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    You mean self-locking. Self-torquing would be quite a trick.

    And I like this better than the self-locking nut, or the cotter pin on a castle nut.

    [​IMG]
  18. spotlight

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    Yeah self locking....too many beers and hmm I like the look of that not going anywhere for sure.....but I'm gonna have to say neither is that self torquing nut....HA
  19. motolab

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    The only o-ring on a BST40 carburetor that can cause overflowing when it fails is the float needle seat o-ring.
    Perhaps this might help next time: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=528038.
    BST40 carbs have cold start enrichment circuits instead of chokes. A choke is closed when an engine is cold and opened when it is warm, whereas a fuel enrichment circuit is opened when the engine is cold and closed when it is warm. A choke works by restricting the air flow, whereas an enrichment circuit works by adding extra fuel. A choke requires a fast idle cam or something akin to it (or you have to hold the throttle open manually), whereas an enrichment circuit adds a little extra air simultaneously with the extra fuel, so the fast idle is already built in.

    Regards,

    Derek
  20. spotlight

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    I like it but I just looked my 2013 don't have the cotter pin hole...