the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    Hey James,
    Sounds like you've got a lot of this covered.
    The stock Fuel screw has: Washer, O ring, Spring. I used the stock items on my extended fuel screw. It worked fine. (Ty Davis fuel screw)

    Make sure the cap on the Carb Vacuum fitting is TIGHT and not leaking. I put a tiny hose clamp on mine to seal it off.

    Good idea to go back to stock Fuel Screw. Can't hurt!
    If still running poorly, try removing Snorkel ... just for laughs.

    Good luck! :freaky
  2. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    H'mmm?

    I'm going to have to take out the fuel screw and have another look.

    New one came with spring/washer/O ring.

    I took out old screw and spring, but I'm not sure I go the old O ring and washer now if there was one.
  3. Mongle

    Mongle Knuckle dragger

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    Are you saying don't use motor oil or no oil? Cause, last time I checked KN uses oil. They advise using their oil but I doubt it makes a difference.

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  4. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    No. Didn't put any oil on the purple filter!

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    More on Carl's Million Mile Truck Here! The Importance of Oil
    A K&N Air Filter is made of 4 to 6 layers of cotton gauze sandwiched between two epoxy-coated aluminum wire screens. The cotton is treated with a specially formulated grade of oil causing tackiness throughout the cotton’s microscopic strands. The nature of the cotton allows high volumes of airflow, and when combined with the tackiness of the oil creates a powerful filtering media that ensures engine protection. In contrast, most other media can not maintain the same balance of airflow and filtration throughout the filter's life without sacrificing one or the other. With a K&N Air Filter, there is no sacrifice.

    I was under the impression you only oil them after cleaning, they come pre-oiled.
  5. ER70S-2

    ER70S-2 Long timer

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    No. How do I know? I spent all summer chasing a stumble at idle. I had the o-ring between the spring and washer. It's spring, washer, o-ring. Think about that o-ring getting chewed up by the end of the spring. :nod

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  6. joexr

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    If your filter looks like it has a red or pink tint , it's been pre-oiled. K&Ns ARE supposed to be oiled with AIR_FILTER oil.:deal
  7. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    Yep red/pink or purple....it's pre-oiled. I just installed it as is.

    Air screw is Screw/spring/washer/O ring. I installed it like this with O ring on bottom of course.

    I'm thinking the air screw is messed up or I pinched the intake rubber.

    I just did all of this to our other DR and it runs great, does pop a tad on de-cell but not bothersome.

    Slow breakfast, emails, ADV, and then out to take a look.

    I just wondered if I overlooked something obvious, or it's a common problem. I must have done something wrong
  8. joexr

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    Try it with the new screw and old filter. I think your lean , due to both the pipe and filter. Rejet time.
  9. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    Got it!

    Milano Bambino phoned me and told me to pull the fuel screw, I did :clap

    it had the old washer and O ring sitting on top of the new one :ear

    Put the new one back in, turned it out one full turn, started it up, purrs like a kitten!

    :1drink So, when you think you know what you are doing shit still happens :deal. I ought to know better. Now I'M BECOMING AN EXPERT :huh

    We have two DR's. I am doing most every mod twice. Prepping them for long distance good road surface travel. Tierra Del Fuego is the dream!

    Flipped both to Factory lowered
    Done both air filters/fuel screws
    Two Acerbis tanks (2 taps)
    Two mid pipes/2 GSXR 750 cans
    Two front sprocket retainer
    Two 16T fronts
    Two neutral safety switch mod
    Two sets side case protectors
    Dozens of Stainless Socket head Allens
    Two shortened side stands

    Looking for recommendations on skid plates

    Still not decided on luggage. Have left over TT top boxes but no sides yet.

    Also thinking about Dash Boards. May move the IGN, idiot lights and remove Speedo and use GPS. Can barely see the idiot lights and IGN is a pain to use with gloves on.

    Done one HDB handguards but not overly impressed. May just do Acerbis on the other.

    Thinking about higher Fatbars.

    Oh, got two National Cycle windshield.

    Vendors gotta love me!
  10. TrophyHunter

    TrophyHunter Long timer

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    Sounds like me when I was prepping my son's DR along with mine. Even sold my FCR and put a TM40 on to match his. Then he sold it.

    If you're ever in San Diego and need/want anything, PM me.
  11. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    All right Man! We go to Oceanside Harbor often in our Motorhome.

    Go to Baja on the bikes often too, usually enter through Tijuana.
  12. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    Oh sorry, I should have put them in order. My point was Tuckers did not mention a WASHER in his post. I'm not sure of the order, just wanted to list what is in there.

    When I did mine I just copied the OEM set up after pulling out stock fuel screw, re-installed extended fuel screw, putting spring, washer and O ring in the order they came out in.

    I think you've got it right ... the O ring is first, then the washer, which holds it evenly in place, then the Spring to act as a sort of detent for the screw so that your adjustment stays put. Is that right? :freaky
  13. ER70S-2

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    Yep. :nod

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  14. TUCKERS

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    Yeah the O ring sits in the carb as gasket

    I had inadvertently left the old O ring and washer in and put the new o ring and washer on top.
  15. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    You'll be an expert in No Time. Congrats on proving again it's hard to screw up the DR650 ... its most always a simple fix!

    Awesome on your prep. Good to do long shake down ride, testing out all the gear and see how the bikes do. In a week or two on the road you'll learn LOTS about what you two like and don't. Then you can come home and spend even MORE MONEY! :lol3 Be very careful if you re-do dash and electrics. Should be Pro done or very close ... and make sure YOU can diagnose and fix it on the side of the road ... in Bolivia, at night ... in the rain! :lol3

    Keep in mind a South America trip will be mostly paved roads. At least 60%, unless you really go out of your way to seek out dirt routes. If you wanted to you could probably do 90% paved roads ... but you'd be skipping some cool sections ... like North Eastern Peru' and the Salar de Uyuni in Bolivia, the Death Road, to mention just a few.

    If doing some off road (mostly easy dirt roads) then I'd go with Soft Luggage. Much lighter weight. Limits what you can carry. (a good thing)

    I've been prepping for a little Grand Canyon ride next week. I'm sure as soon as I mention this something will screw up ... then you guys can laugh at me. :cry Here is my set up with "new to me" Nelson-Rigg bags and duffel bag on top for camping equip.
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  16. 8gv

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    Thanks for posting this picture. I have finally found a rider who puts more crap on his bike than I do.:lol3
  17. ER70S-2

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    Sucks to be human. :deal I ended up divorced because my ex laughed AT me instead of WITH me. :bluduh
  18. motolab

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    As far as I can tell, all markets except the US don't have nickel plated emulsion tubes. I think it's interesting to consider why that might be.

    Regards,

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  19. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    It was my wife Colleen who phoned our local friend and fellow DR rider Milano Bambino and he had me pull the fuel screw first, good call.

    Colleen and James are both experienced BMW R Boxer GS riders with a combined 360,000 miles. We carry a lot of crap and camp.

    On the DR's we are going to have to go with a lot less! We will make a few Baja shake down trips and see how we do.

    Colleen is NOT a happy off roader. She gave it her best shot with our now sold Yamaha TW200's...and she did quite well...but as she says...."it doesn't make me smile"

    That's what it's all about for us, miles and smiles. So we will seek out the best surface roads and do what we have to do to keep smiling through it.

    I love the DR650. I've taken it on our local mountain ride and it is no slower on that run than the BMW R1200GS. The road holding is superb and the power not too shabby. I have a 16T front sprocket so have to keep it on the boil...it sure does like to run.

    What does the collective here say about skid plates? I want good ones.

    The dash wiring will be fun for me, I love that stuff. I will simplify it and understand it so I will know what's up.

    I have a low Corbin seat on the 2009 and we shaved the OEM seat on the 2007. We haven't decided yet who is going to have what bike. They are basically the same and both low miles.

    I have been riding and loving the 2009 as it has had more of the mods finished, but now the 2007 is up to par.
  20. ShadyRascal

    ShadyRascal Master of None

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    A little word about the mighty DR. I now own a V Strom 650 along with my DR650, and it's been a back and forth thing on which gets ridden more. It's usually the Strom to be honest, mostly when I'm going somewhere just on-road.

    Well, we headed for Moab last week, and of course I took the DR. One day we made a long morning ride, and in the afternoon the girls headed for the lake and my buddy and I ran a fairly difficult trail with many creek crossings, rocky obstacles, sand bottoms, etc. The only other bikes we saw on this trail were 250's with real suspension, and here we are on big tanker 650's with some luggage. I have a 16 tooth front sprocket on mine as well.

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    So we get through this trail, which took 2 or 3 hours, and the big bike does it just fine. Never dropped it once. But once we got up out of the canyon, and I got back on the highway for the ride back to town, I settled in rolling 70 or so, just smiling ear to ear, realizing this bike in one ride has proven to me that it will do god damn near anything and do it pretty darn well.

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    When I first bought my DR, I figured this was the bike to have thinking I'd only have one bike. Even though I now have more, I was right. It's the best "one bike" bike, at least for me. :D