the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. 8gv

    8gv Long timer

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    In my "formative" years, having two meant assessing which one was rideable and which would remain in a state of disrepair. Once both were inop, the easiest to fix would win. At some point I realized that my definition of "rideable" was beginning to include issues such as no brakes or lights. That's when I went down to only one bike. On that bike I was pulled over by the cops and first heard the descriptive term "riding without a vehicle".:lol3
  2. GSF1200S

    GSF1200S Been here awhile

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    I know this is subjective but I'm gonna say the problem is the 606 front. I have grown to not like that tire. I started with 606s and didn't know any better. Eventually I read about people talking about low speed almost-washouts and the like with the 606 front and decided to try a 606 rear and an mt21 front. That combo works perfect for me.

    Because I can't plan for shit and I'm thousands of miles from home, I buy tires at shops when I need them. All the last shop had for the front was a 606 so I took it- immediately I have the same washouts and such. Its stable for me on the street, and works good in mud, but I hate the 606 front in gravel. Its also directional which sucks because you can't flip the tire to extend its life once you wear off the edges.

    As always, ymmv. Others like the 606 front and it may have a bunch to do with your riding style
  3. Kommando

    Kommando Long timer

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    John Candy: 'Funny story, but the...uh...speedometer melted.

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    John Candy: Yes, sir. Yes, sir, I do.

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  4. refokus

    refokus Hmmmmmm

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    I have read so many comments about the 606 as well and I have never added my own. Well, I agree with you and I think the 606 up front is a horrible tire. I am going to leave it at that before someone tells me to STFU.......:lol3
  5. bobbed06

    bobbed06 Cavalera Conspirator

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    I found a new Green DR650 for $4998 in the East Ohio Auto and RV ad paper if anybody is interested
  6. FirstPath

    FirstPath Long timer

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    New? Green?
  7. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Multi task. :lol3
  8. bobbed06

    bobbed06 Cavalera Conspirator

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    It looked green in the pics, it was a new DR650 for $4998
  9. OneEffinName

    OneEffinName Been here awhile

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    Looking at buying a clean, well cared for 2003 DR650 with 22,000 miles. Would this be suitable for an Alaska trip "the hard way" - up the Cassiar. Actually I am a Canuck so I would like to take it to Tuktoyaktuk. Anyhoo - lots of gravel.

    I dont have mega bucks and this baby is a good price, just not sure if its too old with too many miles.
  10. ChromeSux

    ChromeSux Un-plated and Unscrewed

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    You never know, but i would trust it, i sold one with 52,000 miles on it, there is one down the road from where i live, i drive by it all the time, it has over 100,000 miles on it, all stock.
  11. ER70S-2

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    Mine's done OK. :deal

    Replace the wheel bearings, cush hub bearing (and rubbers), chain, sprockets and ride for another 22k. :D

    You should grease the steering head bearings and the rear suspension linkage pivot bearings and swingarm bearings.

    If Cassiar is really the hard way, I'd recommend emulators and springs in the front and a Cogent shock in the rear. It will keep things from shaking themselves to bits on all the washboard you're going to be riding. :nod
  12. shu

    shu ...

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    I'd do it. 22,000 miles is not a lot for a DR.

    Mine has 63,000 miles now and I wouldn't hesitate to take it on a trip like that. Make sure your chain and sprockets are fresh and do the 'big service' (new plugs, set valves, etc.) before you go.

    .........shu
  13. JagLite

    JagLite Long timer

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    Greetings Lawnchair!

    Have you ever ridden any bike with full knobbies on the freeway?
    If not, what you felt is probably normal.

    Full knobs really squirm and move around and the faster you go on a paved smooth surface, the scarier it might feel.
    NEW knobbies are the worst too. :huh
    It is something most of us get used to, but the first time.... :eek1

    The front tire is the worst offender of course.
    Holding the bars tight will also make it worse, not better.
    The bike needs to be able to move around some to track straight..

    This is assuming that the wheels are aligned, the tires are round, etc. :wink:

    Put your thumb on a knob and push it around.
    Now picture that knob and a couple of its neighbors being the only contact with the ground at 55 mph with 200-300 lbs riding on them...

    Many riders think they have flat tires the first time they ride fast on a paved road with new knobbies since the bike feels so loose.

    Many of us ride on a freeway with a knobbie at times, but it is NOT an ideal front tire for that!

    Twitchy front end off road? Probably needs more weight on the front.
    The tire needs to be loaded to be effective.

    You bought it new and the dealer hadn't set it up correctly?
    And the dealers wonder why we don't trust them to work on our bikes?
  14. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    Pretty much spot on!
    My D606 front scared me too when new and running to much pressure.
    Once it's done some miles and been leaned over a bit on pavement, it will improve. I'd try somewhere between 22 and 25 PSI for the front, 25 PSI for the rear D606.

    The 50/50 tires mentioned are FAR better road tires. But if going into more serious off road, the D606 is your man. Learn to relax your grip and get used the movement, it's normal.
  15. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    PLUS ONE! :thumb Not a big deal. Go through the bike and check everything and do appropriate (and affordable) upgrades and hit the road. you'll be fine.
    Fresh oil and filters, clean carb, good tires, spare tubes and tools, you should be OK.
  16. Mongle

    Mongle Knuckle dragger

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    They will have to tell us both! After 15 straight days of riding and about 2400 miles I switched out my GP1s for a set of 606s. I thought I was going to wreck going straight. This is on gravel roads, NOT PAVEMENT. The 606s want to track around. I tried diffrent pressures with no luck. I put another 3000 miles in 15 more days...they never got better. I could run 15-20mph faster on gravel with the gp1s. No more 606s for this guy.
  17. GSF1200S

    GSF1200S Been here awhile

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    Ok, ill bite. I wouldn't buy one with 22k miles personally. There are too many well cared for ones with less miles less apt to give you issues. Heard of steering head bearings at 40k, some with wheel bearing issues at 25k while others have no issues at 60k, same with rear linkage, etc. How was it ridden? Was it neglected?

    I will say its prolly good. I will also say your odds are even better with lower mileage. Mines approaching 22k at this point, though 14k of that has been in the last 2 months and only a cct gasket has failed me..
  18. GSF1200S

    GSF1200S Been here awhile

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    I'm telling you- its the front and I feel EXACTLY the same. The 606 rear is awesome when using a different front. Give the MT21 front a shot. The GP1 rear sucks compared to the 606.. read around online.. MANY are happy with mt21 front/606 rear
  19. GSF1200S

    GSF1200S Been here awhile

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    A cheaper front option that I'm going to try and many say is awesome is the IRC TR8. Its supposed to be great everywhere, last a long time and its not directional so you can flip it. Cheaper than a GP1 as well.. maybe try a tr8 front 606 rear?
  20. OneEffinName

    OneEffinName Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the replies gang - I'll do the test ride tomorrow and see how it goes.