the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. AKASY

    AKASY Noob

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    On my last DR I did a good job of scuffing up the oil filter cover. Since then I have seen two others cracked by rocks--one we had to leave in the boonies until we could get a truck back in to get it. I ordered a cover but it did not clear my skid so I did some improvising.
    Here are a couple of pics of what I came up with--don't know how well it will work if stress tested but I'm hoping it will at least give my oil cover some protection if I encounter a rock during a dirt nap.:D

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  2. RideAlongAtlas1

    RideAlongAtlas1 IS GOOD ! ! !

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    :rofl Thanks. Would be good if it got into a few office buildings on a Friday afternoon. That might make it a mild youtube HIT. It was a rainy day and I was rather excited. Rain gets me excited. Like an animal :lol3

    Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRoyXtdfd5M

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  3. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    Yea, your front sprocket shows more wear than I initially thought from the other pic. Looks it's been exposed to Salt as well?
    Is it Suzuki OEM sprocket?

    I'd also be concerned with your rear sprocket. Kinda "Pointy" no?
    Hard to tell ... fuzzy pic ... but I'm guessing it's past due for replacement.
    Is that a stock Suzuki sprocket? If not ... what brand?

    Looks like you're ready for the rest of Summer! Safe riding! :freaky
  4. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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  5. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave I demand proof, sir.

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    Neat, but you could have just bought a cover for it - and the covers seem like they'd really protect the housing. This is my bike:

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  6. GSF1200S

    GSF1200S Been here awhile

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    Ok, so with this all past me, I have a crazy theory. Tell me what you think of this:

    I started out using kerosene in a squirt bottle and bel ray chain lube. Having no experience on the road, I figured kerosene could be easily sourced. I was wrong. As I ran into only being able to buy large quantities of kerosene, I switched to wd40 since I had read in many places about guys using that to clean their chains. I would spray the chain with wd40, then wipe it off with a rag, then apply chain lube and let it dry. I would always do this when the chain was hot.

    The problem is, as some have mentioned, wd40 is a penetrant. My theory is that the wd40 penetrated the orings and ruined the grease inside, and soon the chain started rusting internally (despite my cleaning and lubing). At the same time, the Keintech simple stand I use isnt the most stable, but certainly weighs less, costs less, and takes zero ground clearance when stowed compared to a center stand; this stand allows the bike to move a little when I would spin the wheel to blast the chain with wd40. Overspray prolly hit the spacer by the cush hub bearing a number of times, consequently pentrating the seal (or around the bearing perhaps?) and destroying the grease in the bearing. As the bearing wore, it started to place all sorts of additional force on the wheel bearings and caused the one nearest to the rotor to start going bad. **EDIT** I really am not sure the cush bearing could put additional force on the wheel bearings, but id like your opinions.

    I always check the wheel for movement when I deal with the chain, but I will confess I didnt always check the sprocket for lateral movement. This happened fast because I know in fairbanks there was no wheel slop at all.

    Maybe im reaching here, but the cush hub bearing definitely had a rusty runny watery crap coming out of it, and this theory seems plausible.

    Anyone else want to part some wisdom on me? I feel really stupid (and I was for sure) but at least I know better now. Im using diesel in a squirt bottle to clean the chain and silicone lubricant to keep the orings conditioned. I clean when warm, and I wipe the chain off before extended dirt sessions. Sound right?

    Moral of the story: dont blast wd40 on chains or by accident, bearings. I guess some might spray wd40 on a rag, but for me diesel is so cheap, abundant, convenient and good at cleaning that Im just going to use it from now on.
  7. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    Maybe.

    But as I stated above, don't over lube a chain, and there is no need to clean it, ever. And even if there is crud build up on it, its not on the wear parts, and its only cosmetic. IMHO, YMMV :wink:
  8. greer

    greer Long timer

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    Take a look at the Shinko 244's and 705's.

    Sarah


  9. dankatz

    dankatz Been here awhile

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    The Shinko 244 are very inexpensive and great on the road (haven't had the experience of taking them offroad). Despite looking like 50/50 tires, I would say they are more like 70/30 tires. I will be replacing mine with the same ones. Interesting that the guy I bought the bike from had given me Dunlop 606's as well with only 100 miles. He hated them on the highway and immediately took them of.
  10. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    Hey Grift,
    Yep, OEM, all of it. Even the new cs.
    No salt water, I don't ride it to work. :lol3 I guess it's just the photo.
    Rear is good, I comped it to a new new, about the same.
    And your are really spot on with the new cs and rubbers, the difference is quite noticeable!
  11. AKASY

    AKASY Noob

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    I tried that and it could be fitted but it would be tight and difficult during oil changes. I also did not like the way it stuck out to the side. Still have not sold it, no rush of potential buyers:lol3
  12. NWBoon

    NWBoon Been here awhile

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    Wow, City Bike is a magazine name I hadn't heard in years! I went to college at Sacramento State from 1990 to 1995 and really enjoyed reading that publication. My only form of transportation from 90 - 94 was a 1988 Kawasaki EX500. I put 33,000 or so miles on that little bike and had a blast with it (first motorcycle). Thanks Adv Grifter for lots of great reading back in my wild days.
  13. malignity

    malignity Day Tripper

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    Hey everyone,

    I'm looking at possibly getting a 2000 DR650. Its got about 22,000 miles on it. How many more miles on average will I be able to get before I'm looking at a rebuild?

    With proper suspension, will a DR650 be able to achieve freeway speed with a 240lb driver and 170lb passenger?

    I want a backup/guest 'dirt bike', but also would like to kill two birds with one stone and have an adventure bike for my wife and I. The XR650L is too tall for a passenger, and the KLR is too heavy to be used as a dirt bike.

    I'm hoping the DR650 will fit.
  14. MrBob

    MrBob Out there

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    Fabricating your own part always trumps just being able to whip out a credit card.
  15. TrophyHunter

    TrophyHunter Long timer

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    There are posts of couples going long distances on a properly set up DR and several on this forum have over 50K miles. I know of one that sold to someone here with 75K and they're still riding it.

    It should work for your stated mission once it's set up. Happy hunting.
  16. noreason

    noreason The coolest guy ever

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    Recently purchased an 09 and I love it. But I have a question about its height/suspension.

    The bike has an aftermarket Sargent low seat a few racks in the back with two soft bags with nothing in them. Nothing major as far as weight goes really. Maybe 10-15lbs max?

    Anyhow, when the bike is on flat ground and the side stand, it's almost vertical and unsteady. I have to park with the wheel to the left, which I normally do, except on this bike, I literally have to. I have to park on the street facing the opposite direction (illegal?) because the slight curvature of the street won't allow it! Last but not least, if I have the stand down and sit on the bike, which I could do on my 99 dr 350, it just pushes me and the bike over to the right, pretty far, far from possible to just sit there and hang out on it.

    So, I figured the previous owner lowered the bike, but everything (to me) looks stock. Links look normal, the shock adjustment is in the higher height slot and the spring compression adjuster (whatever the actual word is for that) seems to be in the stock position.

    Any ideas on what else I can check?

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  17. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    Crank in some more spring preload on the shock with the adjusters or get a heavier spring.

    You could shorten the stand also, but if the bike is sagging that bad , you need more cowbell. (preload) :D

    If you're not going to be offroading there's always a centerstand option.
  18. dman

    dman Been here awhile

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    Hmmm ... surprised to see criticism of the D606 recently. I now have over 2K miles on mine and they seem fine street and dirt, though I haven't ridden in rain (or mud). I finally did a "real" dual-sport ride last weekend, about 700 miles total with maybe 100 off pavement, a few of which were some pretty rocky and loose (by my noob standards) OHV trails in the Sierras, and on a few hills I needed all the traction I could get. But the 200+ miles of slab to-and-from the mountains was handled fine too. And on a few sections of twisty/bumpy paved FS roads (Frazier Creek Rd, Plumas NF - just ride it!) I didn't have much in the way of chicken strips left. BTW, this was the second longish ride I've done since installing ProCycle's lowered pegs and they definitely make a huge difference. The stock seat was really tolerable, and standing off road, though something I still don't feel totally comfortable with, was much easier.

    -dman
  19. TrophyHunter

    TrophyHunter Long timer

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    I think the 606 may be a little noisier than some want but my set worked well on the street. I was surprised at how much traction they had in corners. I'm not a canyon carver by any stretch but went too hot into a couple of corners and had to do the "steady throttle, lean - Lean - LEAN" mantra in my head and they hung on.

    Hold up well in the rocky stuff, too.
  20. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    There have been tests run on NEW X ring chain ... soaked in WD40 for a week. WD did not get past X rings. ... BUT ... on a worn chain? Maybe you have a point? Go light on the WD40!

    I don't flood my chain with WD (expensive!) and I try to wipe most of it off after cleaning. If you leave a lot on there ... then some chain lubes won't stay on the chain if it's wet with WD40. This is true for the Dupont Teflon product. So, clean off the WD best you can.
    Diesel is great. My only complaint? It stinks and my rags end up stinking, but it's cheap and plentiful, does a good job. I say, go with it. :clap

    I don't believe WD over spray ruined your Hubb or wheel bearings. More likely water exposure and hard use. Rain riding, stream crossings and
    off road riding will take a lot of life out of both your chain and your bearings.
    I've no idea on the "order of failure" or how one would affect the other.

    Don't forget to check your LINK bearings, especially the most exposed ones that are low down. Re-Grease when you can. (I do it about once a year if I've ridden in the wet)

    Your DR will be in top shape by the time you make it home! Excellent maintenance reports ... and proves my point that starting off a long ride with lots of new parts and a complete fresh service, saves time/money on the road.

    I learned this in the 80's doing Baja rides:
    The standard rule for our 1500 mile Baja Ride (about 70% off road) was:
    1. New Tires/Tubes (with 3 spare tubes on board)
    2. New Chain/Sprockets (spare master link, spare CS sprocket)
    3. New Battery
    4. Complete service, checking/lubing all bearings
    5. Loc Tite everything, check all fasteners
    6. Complete Tool kit, spares, nut/bolt kit
    7. First Aid kit