the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. Rocktown

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    Huh. I missed that he drove after the rain. You're right not a water issue. I missed the whole original post.
  2. ER70S-2

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  3. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    Only start on the carb and plugs after you have done the other jobs I mentioned. It's a progressive inspection. It's quite universal and basic.

    You perhaps don't know much, if anything about engines. If this all works out never again ride for 100 miles at 95 miles per hour on this machine. That is killing it. They are not manufactured for this type of use. So you ran the engine to the fullest extent of it's capabilities for one hour? That's pretty darn drastic. Machines in general have their limits, it's prudent to stay below their limits in order to preserve some modicum of reliability. It's like leaving a food mixer running when you leave the house, when you come home it's probably burned out.
    I suspect low or no oil and you've toasted the engine. Did you change/check or add oil? When did you last adjust the valves?
    You'll want to read the operators manual for any device you intend to use, it's paramount that you follow the manufacturers instructions to get full and reliable use out of such device. You can't just jump on this motorcycle, twist the throttle and go as fast as it will go until it breaks.

    Edited post. This is not the original post in it's entirety.
  4. mehigh

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    my 2008 has just 66k-ish km, my 98 is just 10k-ish km away from going back to zero.
  5. TrophyHunter

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    Mr. Tucker - I can appreciate the meaning behind your post but this isn't Jo Mamma. Most posts here are a little more diplomatic but still informative.

    :norton
  6. tlmaffucci

    tlmaffucci Been here awhile

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    I have oil, changed it at 4000 miles (at 5000 now).

    Have not checked the valves but adjusted the drive chain and filled tire pressure two weeks ago. Thanks for the help
  7. tlmaffucci

    tlmaffucci Been here awhile

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    This is why I'm a big fan of you and the following posters, to name a few:
    ER70s-2, embeddee, Thump!

    Like I said, to name a few. Hostility deters learning, I think.
  8. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    whatever......there was no lack of diplomacy, I was to the point and kind as could be. I'm not about to get in an internet discussion about PC and diplomacy and how I talk to people. Unsubscribed, you guys will help him and figure it out.

    I'll edit my post.

    Post in question is edited.
  9. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave Backyard Adventurer

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    How could you not include Kommando? And ProCycle, and...
  10. MartiniUp

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    Thread dead.
  11. Kommando

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    Once you get as far south as Dave is, there are also crocs to consider. The gators tend to try to get away from grown men or running motors, as most are not very big or assertive. The big gators grab people from time to time, but even they seem to prefer smaller critters like dogs.

    Gators are all over the place during the warmer 9 months of the year around here, but crocs don't typically come this far north. I don't know if the American crocs in FL are as assertive as the salties in N Australia, but they can get pretty big too, usually in places where they're well-fed, like below the bridges in Costa Rica. Gators tend to be smaller and more scavenger-natured, but we've had several 12-footer+ gators caught in the southern states in just the past year.

    I worry more about falling on a cottonmouth when riding in wet areas. They can be nasty. We also have feral pigs, deer, black bears, rattlesnakes, coral snakes, and cougars in FL. Fire ants and mosquitos are usually more of a nuisance when out riding, but I do see pigs and gators quite frequently around here.
  12. thump!

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    Thanks for the kind words but I too missed the last part of your original post. I inferred the bike quit immediately after riding in the rain. Hence my comments were related to getting a possible wet engine going.

    After re-reading your original post I would offer this. If the starter won't spin over the engine, you probably need a battery (and maybe repairs to your charging system). However, a weak battery won't prevent it from running. In fact, the DR will run quite happily without any battery at all because the igniter has is on power source on the stator.

    If it will start but not continue running, you probably have a fuel delivery problem of some type. Since it was working fine and then quit when you stopped, I'd look for a clogged or failed petcock and after that blocked carb passages or jets. If you don't have an inline fuel filter you need one.

    FWIW, I do agree with one thing Tuckers said. The DR650 was not designed with sustained high speed travel in mind. They are better suited to 60 mph secondary roads than to interstate highways.
  13. Kommando

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    Sorry. I was replacing gaskets on a friend's Civic, and planning some prep work to stage a DR in CO after Thanksgiving. I know it's no excuse, and I'll try harder to keep this thread where it belongs.

    :D
  14. Kommando

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    I'd expect around $2K if the bike is in decent shape but not pristine. Does it have a skid and real aluminum handguards included?
  15. Kommando

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    Make sure your intake boot isn't leaking. Make sure you have fuel getting to the carb and that the carb inlet filter is clear. Make sure your idle-mix screw didn't vibrate out. Make sure you have strong spark.

    Check your valve clearances too. Your compression could be low if your valves aren't seating properly now.
  16. Mongle

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    I think the Phillips that comes in the tool kit with the DR is the correct one. I have been meaning to put a real handle I can actually grip on mine.

    I have also found through the years that the spark plug wrench that comes in the kits fit and work better than any snap on one that I have in the tool box. Go figure.
  17. Carl Childers

    Carl Childers Ghost in the Machine

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    Sure it is, now you'll sound like less of a noob. :D
  18. Rocktown

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    It make sense that it would be. But I know me and if I take it out of the tool kit to preform maintenance at home I will end up leaving it at home and needing it out on the road. Plus this gives me an excuse to buy a new tool. I never have enough tools.
  19. ER70S-2

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  20. JagLite

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    Actually the screw driver in the tool kit is much better than any phillips you have in your tool box for working on your bike because it is a JIS screwdriver and NOT a phillips.

    Both the JIS and phillips look similar but the are not the same.

    A JIS driver works great on phillips screws as well as JIS screws but a Phillips driver does NOT fit the JIS screws correctly and will strip the screw head out easily.

    All these years we thought the Japanese bikes all used lousy quality screws that the heads stripped out the first time you tried to remove it, and now we learn that they use a different tip... Duh.

    If the stock toolkit wasn't so low quality we would have used the screw driver in it and saved those screw heads.
    But the cheapo screwdriver in the tool kits always strip out in the handle it seems.

    I use JIS screwdrivers and tips made by Vessel.
    http://www.vesseltools.com/