the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. procycle

    procycle Long timer

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    The issue isn't really a 'failure rate' type of thing. The problem is that the screws are tightened against the plastic body of the NSU. Engine heat and heat cycling causes the plastic to soften slightly and collapse a little under the pressure of the screws. Once the plastic has deformed the screws are no longer tight. Most riders find 'finger tight' screws. A few riders find a screw is missing or one comes out during an oil change. Mine were barely finger tight when the bike had 300 miles on it.
  2. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    The DR 'kit' I recently acquired had its clutch and other odds and ends nearby destroyed. The missing NSU screw was the likely culprit.
  3. TrophyHunter

    TrophyHunter Long timer

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    Short answer: Secure them.

    Full gammit of answers. I've secured NSU's on 6 DR's and have another in the hopper. It's ranged from secure, to finger tight to "one was on my son-in-laws magnetic drain plug when we removed it".....

    Might has well just get it done.
  4. GSF1200S

    GSF1200S Been here awhile

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    Yeah, if you're thinking about it, do it or worry. I couldn't enjoy the bike till it was done.

    Mine were so tight I had to use an impact driver to get them out. Go figure
  5. Carl Childers

    Carl Childers Ghost in the Machine

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    Totally down with that Boz.
  6. Rick

    Rick Been here awhile

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    Would you use blue or red? I can't imagine that I'd ever want to take those bolts out again so I'd think red, but wanted to ask.
  7. Lil' Steve

    Lil' Steve PussyWagon™ Chauffer

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    Blue.
  8. WYO George

    WYO George Long timer

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    Saturday morning I'll be picking up my new '13 DR650 and one of the things I'd like to start working on now is locating a spare set of wheels. When i had my DRZ I kept one set of agressive offroad wheels/tires and one set of "50/50" wheels and tires for normal riding. That let me put the miles on my "street" tires and not wear out my dirt tires on my long daily commute (75-80 miles a day)


    So, I've read that the DR350 wheels will fit, any particular years?

    What other options are there (if any) that are fairly simple plug and play wheels and rotors?

    Thanks,
    G
  9. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    agree w/ Steve. I used blue, but I don't own red.:1drink

    Red scares me.
  10. NC Rick

    NC Rick Cogent Dynamics Inc

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    I have never checked mine... I would think the plastic mounting "ears" would have steel or bronze bushings to take the screw forces?

    I don't want to read this stuff, I could start to worry! At 40k miles, are we saying I shouldn't feel secure just 'cause it hasn't blwn up yet?
  11. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    they all run great right up till that last second. tick tick.:D

    Alfred E Newman, "What me worry?":wink:
  12. ER70S-2

    ER70S-2 Long timer

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    Sleep tight

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    NordieBoy's pic
  13. tlmaffucci

    tlmaffucci Been here awhile

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    Once I have removed the bronze plug for the fuel screw, I just remove the old screw and screw in the new one? Will I have fuel come out?
  14. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    If they did we wouldn't routinely have this discussion :D
  15. JagLite

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    If Suzi had used bushings there would be no problem...
    They didn't so we do.
    Have a problem.
    Both of my DR's were semi loose.
    Finger tight only.

    I wonder if the plastic expands when hot and that is supposed to keep the screws tight?
    Obviously doesn't work if that was the idea.

    My street tracker DR has over 38k miles and the screws were just as loose as my other DR with 3,500 miles.

    Will yours make it another thousand miles? A hundred? Ten? One????

    Don't wait until it is too late, it really ruins your day.
  16. NC Rick

    NC Rick Cogent Dynamics Inc

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    First a broken thumb, now, night terrors...


    Perhaps I can find the time to peek in there.:wink:
  17. planemanx15

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    Decided to go tubeless. Did the front (warp 9 19") last week with 3M 4412n "extreme" sealing tape. Basically it's used in marine settings is 2mm thick and self healing. $40 for 5 yards. The front has held air for 4 days now, perfect 30 psi. I did the rear today (warp 9 SM rim) and I'll be scooping on a Shinko 705, which is one of my favorite tires for the DR.

    I think the rear came out better, but only a bath with the tire will tell if it worked. I used "seal all" on the spokes first, then the tape, then 1" gorilla tape on the edges, and 2" on the middle to protect the 3M tape. Another piece of 3M tape on the seam of the gorilla tape to make sure it doesn't peel.

    I may pull the front apart again just to add the seal all. I like having that added layer of protection. The valve pictured below has some seal all around it.


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  18. ER70S-2

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    No fuel will leak when you remove the fuel screw. Pay attention, there are 3 small pieces: spring, washer, o-ring; make sure to get them in the proper order. If the o-ring stays in the hole, the washer and spring will be loose on the screw, so keep the screw vertical until you know. If the o-ring stays in, you don't have to get it out.

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  19. psmcd

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    Yes, I was infected by your cautioning.
    All summer this image, or worse
    gouged the little folds in my brain.
    It worried like a thorn and festered as I rode.

    Suddenly, it would jab, displacing all other thought,
    when remote and alone, near dusk
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    an imagined thunk in the gear box knocks loose a vision of this screw,
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    rattlin around
    and that nagging inner voice
    "Why don't you attend to this simple task?"

    Came Thanksgiving, I couldn't take it anymore.
    Finally I did pop the cover of my 2011 at 9,500 miles and the screws were flanged, socket allens and tight - no loctite. Now they are loctited and I know it's okay so I can ride without that incessant awareness of what might happen.

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  20. TrophyHunter

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    I can't help with the DR350 answer but I've been thinking of getting rid of one of my DR sets....I'm fortunate to have 3. I thought Shinko 705, 244's and the knobbiest DOT legal set I could find. I really don't commute so haven't used the 705 set. I'm about ready to get rid of the wheels....maybe with the 705's.

    PM me if interested.