the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. Fishnbiker

    Fishnbiker Tire smuddy, hook swet

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    Same with me, took the ambulance an hour to arrive, to be led in by my buddy. I don't go out of bounds alone. 4 Hours later I arrived at the hospital.
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  2. Nogoodnamesleft

    Nogoodnamesleft Long timer

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    so the new slider arrived today.
    as well as my new glasses..

    anyone ever noticed a difference in the swingarm weld location between years.??

    all the 3 holes lined up perfect on the slider - exactly as should - right part number still in the suzuki bag, but the 2 recess spots didn't quite line up, that i presume are for the weld line.
    i then checked my old one and it looks like the old one never lined up perfect either, from a rub mark i can see on it.
    top and bottom is off a touch - like it is for a smaller radius weld location.

    anyone ever notice this - mine is a 15.
    maybe they did a weld change, but i just presumed these were all jigged out the same, year after year.
    could be an old jig by now perhaps.

    found it when i installed the new slider, i noticed it wasn't an exact perfect location bend over the front of the swingarm.
    - it sits a touch higher due to the recess for the weld being in a slightly different location.
    ( once again i presume that's what the recess bit top and bottom is for. )

    anyways just curious - and going hmmm, don't overthink it..
    main thing is i have a new one on, and that i need to keep a better eye on it.
    never looked that close before. had it since new, i just presumed..
    maybe this also contributed to the old slider moving off location once it became loose - dunno

    here's a couple of pics, cause my way too many words never make sense

    the old slider with the rub location ( arrow next to it ) and recess locations.
    IMG_2906 (1).jpg

    new one fitted at bottom - recess vs weld

    IMG_20170421_171306225.jpg

    new one fitted at top
    who knows maybe the recess has nothing to do with weld and I'm way off base..

    But anyways, I'm hoping I may have also accidentally taken a pic good enough for ER70S-2 to use in his stash with this one.
    this shows the location of slider vs weld,
    but for those also curious, deciding if they should remove the top roller, this pic is also an FYI for how high the chain goes..
    you can see the chain grind wear on the button head - for reference only ever run 15 42, 15 43.

    IMG_20170421_162739839 (1).jpg
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  3. ct-ktm

    ct-ktm Long timer

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    I have read quite a few bad reviews about the Spot tracker, so I was looking into just a PLB. No other fees..
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  4. thump!

    thump! Adventurer

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    Most SPOT problems are due to the antenna not having a clear "view" of the sky. If it's in your pocket and or pointed horizontally it's not going to work very well. Same is true for heavily forested roads and even thickly overcast days. I believe ALL the sat-dependent devices (including television receivers) suffer from this same problem - it is just UHF radio after all.

    I agree that having the device on your person makes a lot of sense but the problem is mounting it in a place where it can see the sky and not be lost. That's why there was some discussion of arm-bands earlier in the thread. I don't know much about PLB's so forgive my ignorance but what emergency service do they summon. With SPOT and inReach, there is a "call center" that verbally relays your emergency and location to local 911. How do PLBs work?
  5. shu

    shu ...

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    Mostly agree, thump!. My personal findings in red:


    All in all, I find the SPOT3 works well enough to be worth carrying.

    ...........shu
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  6. NC Rick

    NC Rick Cogent Dynamics Inc

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    As far as I know ELB/PLB transmit on one or two frequencies which Coast Guard and Rescue organizations monitor. A satellite array also monitor. A continuous sos signal, unspecific is transmitted. Common on boats and required in aircraft.
  7. Nogoodnamesleft

    Nogoodnamesleft Long timer

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    this is the one i got
    http://kti.com.au/safety-alert-plb/
    has a fairly decent antenna that wraps around the unit and easily fits in top pocket.
    GPS and 10 year battery life was a plus for me, and obviously works out good on the cost over 10 years as you only buy the unit - no ongoing fees. about $250au from memory

    plb uses 406MHz COSPAS-SARSAT - some info - https://www.cospas-sarsat.int/en/18-frontpage-articles/603-what-is-a-cospas-sarsat-beacon
    registered mine with the Aus government
    you set up an account / login with them - you give them your details and stuff like next of kin etc.
    you can input trip details if you want.

    hope i never need it or use it.
  8. Schmokel

    Schmokel Riding gear saved my life.

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    Laconia Harley is having a demo day this Sunday. Friends want to ride down together.




    Shit.
  9. 8gv

    8gv Long timer

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    Just tell them that you need to keep a reliable bike...with the baby coming and all.
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  10. GarageGuyChris

    GarageGuyChris Adventurer

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    All this talk about mopeds and scooters and limited speed 50cc... I live in the suburbs of Toronto and neither are the problem here. The problem here are the E-bikes. Regularly you see these ass-hats
    1. dodging potholes and sewer grates at 30kmh while traffic is going 70kmh.
    2. No insurance or licence there is no previsions for either here so its not even possible
    3. Wearing anything other than proper motorcycle helmets, bicycle helmets forwards and backwards, hockey helmets, sometimes no helmets.
    4. Quite often no gear, flip flops and t-shirts
    5. Carrying one or more 24's of beer in the step through
    6. Towing some sort of trailer like a bicycle trailer again with beer or empties
    7. Carrying children in the step through or on the back that are to small to be a passenger. (There are laws about passengers here)
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  11. Schmokel

    Schmokel Riding gear saved my life.

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    This wouldn't be a purchase I make this year or next. But a few years down the line; if I even did. I figure sit on the 2017s and by the time I am ready to see about another purchase, they'll be a few years old.
  12. ct-ktm

    ct-ktm Long timer

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    Heavily forested area is where I would be 90% of the time..!! and a cloudy day wouldn't keep me home either.
    That's exactly what I read and didn't like, most folks say the inreach uses different satellites.??.. beats the shit out of me, I couldn't tell you how they work.
  13. colinvh

    colinvh Been here awhile

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    Different satellites than what? A communications satellite like the ones the inReach uses is (as far as we care) basically a cell phone tower that's in low Earth orbit, like the ISS. There are about 60 of them, and they split the world into 12 coverage zones. Each zone is a line across the sky that (effectively) 5 of the satellites follow.* As long as the inReach can see enough of the line that it can establish a connection and send a message before a satellite moves out of sight, it should work well. Apparently they are not affected by atmospheric conditions. Sparse foliage should also be fine, but dense gets problematic.

    * There are actually 6 orbits with 11 satellites each, but each one goes all the way around the world, so it makes more sense to think of them as 12 lines. Illustrated with a 1MB GIF: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Iridium_Coverage_Animation.gif
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  14. AlH

    AlH Long timer

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    The InReach and Spot are on different networks. I've never had my InReach fail to get through- eventually. Worst I've ever seen was a 90 min delay in heavily forested mountainous terain while I was actively riding. I watch the InReach and if it gets too far behind I take a break and it catches up much quicker, usually less than 5 minutes, when stationary.
    I've had it ping reliably (subject to the aforementioned delays) inside a travel trailer (camper) with aluminum framing even.
    The sats for the Inreach are moving, ie NOT geosynchronous- so even if you are blocked another one with perhaps a better LOS path will be by shortly.

    The thing I like is that pinging can be automatic, in my case every 10 mins. You can pay more and get 2 min.
    So if I crash out of sight and am disabled and unable to hit the SOS button, the wife who always monitors my rides for safety, can see where I last was and either come look for me or get help sent to that exact location.

    She has been instructed to use common sense- IOW if I haven't moved for, say an hour, and I'm at a restaurant or gas station don't get too worried. Probably chatting with someone.
    If I'm in the middle of nowhere and haven't moved for awhile- then get worried.
    Once I used it to text her I had lost my wallet and phone so I'd be out of touch looking for them. Found them both, amazingly, on a dirt road miles behind me. Phone was busted though. Used it again when I found the phone to text her that phone was broken. If she needs me then text me via the InReach.
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  15. ct-ktm

    ct-ktm Long timer

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    There are different networks, you are showing Iridium's coverage
  16. TwoUpTourer

    TwoUpTourer Been here awhile

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    I have Spot Connect. Can text messages out unlike the other Spot models. Two way would be nice, but Spot Connect at least allows you to send a message of your own choosing and still fit with in a budget.

    Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk
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  17. procycle

    procycle Long timer

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    +1
    The satellite network that InReach uses is much better than the network that SPOT uses.
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  18. AlH

    AlH Long timer

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    Cost was mentioned but honestly I'm pleased at how little it does cost. I pay about $25 a month for the service- unlimited tracking at 10 minute intervals and 40 text messages.
    I ride in the NC mountains- cars run off the road and sometimes aren't found for weeks. Spotting a bike? Much harder.
    What's your life worth?
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  19. jdub

    jdub Dawg bytes reel gud

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    Click here for half price sale ($74.99) going on at Cabela's for Spot Gen 3. That pushed me over the edge to order one this morning for my upcoming western TAT trip.
  20. ct-ktm

    ct-ktm Long timer

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    Sorry to folks for another off topic question..but this is something I do want to get.
    I am a cheap ass so my question is for the $11.95 plan it says .10 per track. I take it you can turn that part off.?? and just have 10 texts and preset messages for that price..