the DR650 thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by sleepywombat, May 1, 2006.

  1. ER70S-2

    ER70S-2 Long timer

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    I understand that it's been mentioned before but it's also been mentioned that that particular one probably won't work (I haven't tried one, just going by previously posted info). I just wanted to keep someone from ordering one in advance of their project. :beer

    I was hoping someone would suggest how to hold the crank in order to check the torque on the primary nut, including an alternative gear jambing solution. I've heard of stuffing a rag into the gears but I don't know if that works. I've read that jambing something in the rear tire won't work because the clutch will slip well before 72 ft.lbs. is reached. Anyone :ear
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  2. Ever Onward

    Ever Onward Older,Wiser, Smarter

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    Jamming a clean Tshirt rag in the gears works just fine. Actually its the least damaging of any gear locking mechanism.

    It was suggested by Bergdonk. I had used all sorts of things before, and was really surprised at how good the Tshirt method worked ! :clap
  3. guavadude

    guavadude Dirt Nap Enthusiast

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    I aborted on trying to remove the nut. I'm too close to my trip and don't have enough experience with clutches to feel good about resolving an issue.
    I tried to get the upper screw out with a bent screwdriver, gave up, spent all day rounding up supplies only to realize it wasn't going to happen unless I put the rear end of the bike back on, which I need
    to do but REALLY wanted to resolve the NSU while I had it all open.

    I was able to file down the screwdriver a bit more and with much praying and choice wordplay, I was able to remove it. Much joy and beer swilling commenced!
    I cleaned the holes with chlorinated Brakleen which of course I didn't have since I usually use the non chlor blend. Went to Walmart at midnight.

    I 243 loctite'd the crap out the hex heads, had to build a few custom allen wrenches to accomplish it but finally got it done. I'm letting it cure for 24 hours.
    It's not a pretty as the safety wire installs but I feel good about it and I didn't blow my bike up...yet.

    Moral of the story is if you have a big trip coming up, try to decide earlier to change bikes. I'm burning the midnight oil but my punch list is getting shorter. I'm looking forward to riding this bike
    for a change and not just wrenching.

    So yeah, keep the wheels and brakes on or get one of those EBC tools.
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  4. cyberdos

    cyberdos Easy Bonus Loop

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    I think you did the right thing. Whenever I don't feel 100% comfortable doing something I just leave it alone. I feel you've got more of a chance to screw something up from not having the know-how or the proper tools to do the right job than if you just let it be.
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  5. NC Rick

    NC Rick Cogent Dynamics Inc

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    You are certainly living the life Al! Sorry about the Transit but your trip sounds. Incredible.
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  6. NC Rick

    NC Rick Cogent Dynamics Inc

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    Some of the Ducati guys used a penny, freaks me right out! I just think of the spreading forces. Most of that stuff is pretty strong I suppose.
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  7. guavadude

    guavadude Dirt Nap Enthusiast

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    I did end up removing the clutch cover plate and friction plates and reinstalled all of that. So I did learn something about how all that goes together.
    Thank Gawd I got the DR350se this Spring. It was so different from the BMW that it took awhile to wrap my head around it. A metric shit-ton easier to work on, that's for sure. It's like the Shamwow guy says "Germans make the most convoluted, use ten parts when one will do stuff!"

    I know that BMW inside out and am one of the guys with experience helping the newbs out. It's kinda weird being in a new section of ADV and not knowing anything and having to ask basic questions because I don't have time to read a 30 page thread on each part of the bike.


    I'm late to the show and tell about your bike day but here's the DR350SE before pics. It's a '97 that had 993 miles on it. What's wrong with people?

    DR350 before1.jpg

    DR350 before2.jpg

    And here's the after in the Ozarks:

    DR350 river.JPG

    DR350 forest.JPG

    I had so much fun on this bike that I decided to pull the trigger on the DR650 for the longer trips.
    Anyway, thanks again for the help. I appreciate all the pro tips too. I was watching my hand position when using wrenches last night!
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  8. hiyaside

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    Neat DR350! I imagine those as a more trail oriented dual sport, like the XT225, correct? Why on earth did you de-90s it?!
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  9. guavadude

    guavadude Dirt Nap Enthusiast

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    Yeah, it's lighter, a good notch taller and a lot of fun. Six speed gearbox ftw! I don't know why that's such a hard thing for manufacturers to do because it makes a ton of difference.
    I'm glad I had the DR350 to glance at to see how something was mounted if I forgot on the 650.

    Why did I de-90s it, because I ride with a bunch of smart asses who think they're God's gift to the art of comedy. "Don't change it! That bike's perfect for YOU!"
  10. cyberdos

    cyberdos Easy Bonus Loop

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    I like the purple and yellow and love it when people make fun of it because it makes it all that much more enjoyable when I'm laughing at them struggle on rocks.

    :lol3

    "Hey, don't be scratching those pretty orange graphics!" :fitz
  11. hiyaside

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    That's neat, guavadude. Seems like a fun little bike, and am baffled that more manufacturers don't do a 6spd. I'm baffled the 350 got it but the 650 didn't.

    It sounds like it WAS the perfect bike for you, and you shouldn't have changed it. I personally would have changed riding buddies before changing something I liked about one of my bikes. :D I happen to LOVE the 90's aesthetic, having been a teen during them, and am so tickled with my rad purple/white DR. I think the only other color combo I'd want is the newer gray ones.
  12. SlowerThanYou

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    Can there be a timing problem created if the primary gear/nut (left hand thread), is turned during a check of its tightness during an nsu fix with the clutch basket off? I'm not sure if this gear needs to be in the exact position it was originally, before tightening. Doesn't seem like it matters but want to be sure.
    Loose Primary Nut-Left Hand Thread-L.jpg
  13. guavadude

    guavadude Dirt Nap Enthusiast

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    I'm ok with the purple frame. I named her Apollonia, that hot chick in Purple Rain.
    I kinda draw the line at pink. I'm not a fan of pink on a bike and Suzuki yellow isn't really my thing either. My '09 DR650 is black with gray frame. Gonna look good if I finish it in time.
  14. procycle

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    The gear is keyed in place.
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  15. Roktman

    Roktman Been here awhile

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    Hey what do guys like for brake pads for the DR 650, have a 2011 I picked up a little while ago, looks like the fronts are ready
  16. Brutalguyracing

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    Stock pads work great



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  17. guavadude

    guavadude Dirt Nap Enthusiast

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    I think it depends on what you like. I like a semi sintered/organic blend so that you get a progressive feel. I'm putting on Galfer Blacks. They changed the formula about a year ago and I wanted to make sure I wasn't buying old stock so I bought from Galfer direct.

    I can't say yet how well they work on the DR but I'll know soon enough. I went ahead and swapped to SS brake lines as well.
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  18. Fishnbiker

    Fishnbiker Tire smuddy, hook swet

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  19. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    Its common enough that if you look at your engine, left and right hand cases are attached with them, and used on many bikes other than DRs too. Also readily available in aftermarket bike bolt packs eg; https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?...A0.H0.Xbolt+pack.TRS0&_nkw=bolt+pack&_sacat=0

    One of my things is to standardise all the bolt sizes on my bikes. I replace the JIS/Phillips a nd Allen heads with hex, 6 mm with 8 mm heads and 8 mm with 10 mm heads. Makes for easy maintenance and fewer, in theory, tools to carry. I still end up carrying a full complement though, because others don't.

    Not sure about Ortleibs but I've used Wolfmans and AMEs which are Wolfman clones made in Oz. Soft bags with over seat straps. I cut the Wolfman straps, lengthen one side, usually the LHS, and shorten the other, RHS. I do this to put the buckle off to the side so I don't have to sit on it. AME in repsonse to my feedback now make the straps long enough so that the buckle can go either side and trimmed if necessary; http://www.adventuremotorcycle.com....ame-rally-saddle-bags-black-or-grey-pair.html

    Rattles that suddenly emanate from the engine's RHS can often be a loose primary drive nut, which needs sorting ASAP before damage becomes catastrophic. ER even posted a pic below.




    As well as using a rag to jamb the primary drive gears I've also used a thin piece of scrap aluminium, 3 mm is good. Make sure you do a tool audit after assembly though. I did one time and couldn't find the scrap of al I'd used. Pulled the cover off again and there it was, where I'd left it, jambing the gears.


    Ferodo Sinter SG:
    http://www.linkint.com.au/motorcycle-product/01-0892-SG_item.html
    http://www.ferodoracing.com/products/motorcycle/brake-pads-and-shoes/sintergrip-off-road-sg/
  20. Nogoodnamesleft

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    It was made legal here a while back.
    As well as shoulder surfing. ( riding on the edge of the freeway on either side of the lanes next to barriers )

    The motorbike cop that used to hide on the freeway and book you for lane splitting when it was illegal,
    now still hides there, but with a speed gun now as lane splitting is restricted to 30km/h.