The end of the world as we know it

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by FatChance, Jan 4, 2018.

  1. Colorado Uli

    Colorado Uli Must I?

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    Too bad your pay ain't tied to the number of students then.
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    nwcolorider NWCOLO

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    Wyatt Ming is loosing population. Energy jobs are leaving. Part of what we have in Baggs is Colorado kids that travel North of the border. We have roughly 180 kids kindergarten thru 12th. About 20 are Colorado kids.
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  3. Prototype4342

    Prototype4342 Long timer

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    That's not far off, I think
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  4. Pariahtize

    Pariahtize Miscategorized

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    Legalization played an enormous role in our growth/economy. If it's Con-strained or federally legalized, then costofliving will (naturally) decrease.
    Have no fear Prototype, chances are costs will decrease, a bit. . . esp if/when other western states legalize, or the Feds crack down on all. . . .

    We did pretty well during the last recession, and this present economy should do even better (if one were to develop).
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  5. Proettermann

    Proettermann The Mule

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    I actually had to look that up... but I am delighted now.

    Frohes Neues.
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  6. oldmanb777

    oldmanb777 Just say NO to socialism!

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    I think somebody already mentioned it, and I think it may be right. This just throws it in Congress lap. Ultimately will lead to national legalization, follow the money/taxation. I voted for it...BIG I repeat BIG mistake! Being an island of legalization brought in so many dead beats. Mass migration of people who are not interested in producing anything, except more "camps" and more crime. "living off the land" I heard it called. Meaning ANYTHING that isn't chained down and can be fenced quickly for the next joint and bag of potato chips is gone. Don't get me wrong, I like potato chips. Just don't like the dead beats. Legalize nationally, and that probably will be ok. But being the only place, has been bad. This may force Congress to act. And they will act in favor of more money they can waste.
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  7. GiddyThump

    GiddyThump Been here awhile

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    Less than a year until it is legal here but they are already selling it online.
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  8. Boricua

    Boricua Been here awhile

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    Where in Colorado are you? I have not seen any of that. Where are the facts that supports that legalization have caused all the problems you are talking about.

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  9. skates04

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  10. oldmanb777

    oldmanb777 Just say NO to socialism!

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    Take off the rose colored glasses then. Like I said, I voted in favor, and in retrospect, a big mistake. I think being an "Island" of legalization attracted a lot of problems. Just my observation of changes in the areas we live and frequent. The type and rapid escalation of crime in the areas we frequent. I'm not being emotional about it, its just what I see going on. Just like many other drugs, some people can enjoy and "mellow" out with it responsibly, and some can't. We have become a magnet for those who can't. It sure has been good for the home security business.

    Back to original programing.......................Maybe congress will be forced to act. And I suspect economic pressures and to a lessor degree social pressures will have them start treating it more like alcohol. I can Imagine similar laws like alcohol, where you have blue counties, or blue states. Some states you have to buy your alcohol from state liquor stores where it is tightly controlled and taxed heavily. I think Ohio, and Utah come to mind.
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  11. oldmanb777

    oldmanb777 Just say NO to socialism!

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    HellSickle Scone Rider

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    Shit. That's one more wall Trump is going to have to build.

    I heard that with Session's latest announcement, polls are showing that 51% of republicans now support legalization. The government will not be able to stop this movement. National legalization will solve these temporary problems.
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  13. _CJ

    _CJ Retrogrouch

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    I voted in favor too, but don't regret it. Don't use the stuff, never have, but freedom is important to me, even if it doesn't benefit me directly. There have definitely been some serious negatives that I didn't see coming, but it will probably be resolved sooner than later, and a little short term pain is usually required for long term gain.

    At this point, there are something like 14? states where recreational is legal, and another 38? where medical is legal. 65% of Americans favor national legalization. It's only a matter of time at this point, and with recreational now legal in California, I suspect many of our transient problems will migrate on to greener pastures.


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    oldmanb777 Just say NO to socialism!

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    I agree. I didn't vote for it mainly for personal freedom. That was a small part of it. My biggest reason was to remove it from the black market. I had hoped, like Alcohol, that maybe that would reduce that segment of crime. Besides, I never really expected people to quit using because it was illegal.
    I'm Federally licensed in my profession, and its not legal federally, so never a consideration for me anyway. I don't really need another bad habit. I have plenty of those already that are not healthy. So doubt I would use it anyway. If I had to do it all over, knowing what I know now, I would certainly vote against it. No question. Let another state bear the brunt of the experiment.
    As for personal freedom, I'm all for it. And I believe its a major part of our life/culture etc. There is a big responsibility that comes with personal freedom. And too many irresponsible people who are enjoying their personal freedoms to extreme. Or put another way, too many people who are very willing to step on you, and abuse you, to exercise their "personal freedom". That's unfortunately why we as a society have laws. Well thats again off topic, and i'm back on my soapbox. Sorry, I think I will go out and put some brakes on the car. Do something constructive with today.
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  15. RLK

    RLK RLK KLR

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    For the umpteenth time, testing positive for cannabinoids does not prove impairment. Your data is being manipulated to mean something it doesn't. The report states such on page 11, Bold font not added by me:

    "THIS REPORT WILL CITE DATASETS WITH TERMS SUCH AS “MARIJUANA‐RELATED” OR “TESTED POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA.” THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY PROVE THAT MARIJUANA WAS THE CAUSE OF THE INCIDENT. "
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  16. oldmanb777

    oldmanb777 Just say NO to socialism!

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    True, but testing positive would get me fired. Impaired or not. And yes "statistics lie, and liars figure" Better look close at where the info came from. I'm certainly all in for that. But my unscientific observation is...........That it hasn't been good for Colorado. All emotion aside. It has brought in a lot of people who are not here for the betterment of our state/county/city or whatever. The next question will be..............will it get legalized nation wide. My bet would be yes.
    And I think the change in Washington will usher it in faster than if they were doing nothing. Sometimes you have get things done in the back door. I think the current administration just did that. They put the "monkey" on congress back. Now either way, its congress fault. And I think Congress will cry and whimper and yell and scream, all the way to the bank.
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  17. _CJ

    _CJ Retrogrouch

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    It has also brought a lot of people who ARE good for the betterment of the state, although it could be argued growth is quickly outpacing capacity. All the new home construction, all those business moving here, Amazon possibly moving here....none of that would be happening without the devil's weed. Economically speaking, this state has never been better off. It could be fairly argued that it's the politicians who are screwing it all up. Net-net, it's been good for the state, and it will be good for the country....imho.

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    oldmanb777 Just say NO to socialism!

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    We have had many "boom" times in our states history. So I don't really think weed has them coming. Just a very small segment of it. I think the over- growth out paced capacity a long time ago, and outpaced quality living a long time ago. Yes politicians will screw up most anything if given a chance. Being a" island" of legalization has been bad for Colorado. Hopefully that will straighten out some when it is legalized nation wide.
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  19. RideFreak

    RideFreak Torque Jockey

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    I agree, it's the boom that's most to blame, weed did fuel the fire some. The eventual in other states will reduce the burden caused by that segment some.

    It's easy to see the front range is going through a transformation, big influx of well paying jobs, home prices on the rise etc... I watched Miami go through a transformation in the 70s. Now it's got very little in common with the "Old' Miami. When that happens to a place I think the original residents are the ones that feel it the most.
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    bradrh Been here awhile

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    CO is number 5 for low unemployment. Folks are moving here for work and mountains and public land. Pot is at least 4th place, and we have plenty of company for that now.
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