I don't know what all the complaining is regarding the stock seat. I just picked up my F800 in Walnut Creek, CA and rode it back to Santa Monica, CA on highway 1 (and some twisties in the santa cruz mountains as well) - all told it was a 500 mile ride in 12 straight hours. I did stop for gas and lunch but no long rests. I wear a pair of bike shorts under my riding pants, nothing special. The stock seat is not bad at all! Every so often I stand up and occasionally do some muscle clenches - but other than that you guys must be having some issues with the seat that I don't get at all. Granted I'm used to thin crappy dirt bike seats, crappy supermoto seats, and crappy sport bike seats; but what gives? The F800 is not a highway king, it's not a hog; it's for going on highway jaunts to get offroad and do adventures. Why would you want a gel filled or super plush seat for that kind of riding? Just stand up every once in a while and move your butt around, it's not bad. edit: I have a 32 inch inseam and my only complaint is that the bars are about an inch too high and the seat could actually be and inch higher as well - I want more of a mx feel to my controls. I want to be ON the bike, not IN the bike.