The future of diesel passenger cars in the US

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by McCormack, Jul 3, 2013.

  1. TooFast

    TooFast Long timer

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    You must have the only one, Go and sell that Sprinter back to MB - they do stink and do smoke (although less than earlier models). My buddies wife won't let him park his TDI in their garage because it stinks up the whole house when driving in and out.

    Personally, I'm sick and tired to listening to all the diesel clatter and stink while sitting in traffic and would vote to ban diesels in all cars - leave them in semis/large trucks and heavy equipment that need torque

    Most of my buddies who bought into the diesel myths have gone back to gas motors, especially the ones who paid $6K more for their Ford PU diesel motors. paid more for fuel, and had to have the cabs removed to work on the head lifting and injection problems, etc when driving around all by themselves, not towing anything. Who needs a diesel for that? Not to mention the clatter


  2. iamcanjim

    iamcanjim Face drop

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    Who tows with a small car? I mean, enough to make a difference.
  3. JNRobert

    JNRobert Breaking Wind

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    You're confusing the shitty diesels they put in trucks with the modern Euro TDi's in passenger cars
  4. troidus

    troidus Long timer

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    Fixed.
  5. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    Im not sure to which Sprinter of TDI's you're referring, but none that I have ever seen one smoke. And the new TDI's not only can you can hardly hear that its a diesel, you can sit behind one all day - you'll never smell it
  6. mark883

    mark883 and the mysterians

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    What good is a diesel if you can't hear it or smell it?



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  7. 06yz125

    06yz125 Been here awhile

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    You can see the tdi beetle in the background with a trailer. We tow with it a lot to get to races and just about any light towing duty.

    Works great and can't imagine what we've saved in fuel vs the truck.

    Worked so well we bought a newer jetta tdi and put a hitch on it too.

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  8. iamcanjim

    iamcanjim Face drop

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    It's kind of a grass is greener phenomenon. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/07/a-tale-of-two-wagons-part-the-first-2001-ford-mondeo-2-0-tdci-or-the-famed-manual-diesel-wagon/

    The above link shows the attitude of the average European. You get a diesel manual wagon because you have to. Most Europeans would greatly prefer the Mondeo ST220, which few of us in NA would care about. The Mondeo ST220 is the on with the 220 hp 3.0.

    So, they would rather have the 3.0 litre gas, if they could afford to purchase and feed it. While in NA, we would rather have the 2.0 turbo diesel injection, because....torque?
  9. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    how about twice the fuel economy.... and yes the torque is a nice side effect
  10. TooFast

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  11. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    That's quite possibly the stupidest bet I have ever heard of and I work in the gambling industry.
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    someone installed the engine backwards in your yamaha.
  13. 06yz125

    06yz125 Been here awhile

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    LOL..its a diesel too...that's why. <smile>
  14. troidus

    troidus Long timer

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    Oh, and the other advantage of a TDI over an ordinary gasser is high-altitude performance. Now if you have a turbo gasser, then high-altitude performance isn't a problem, but then you're spending as much on the gas engine as the diesel.
  15. wyowillys46

    wyowillys46 Hau Ruck!

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    LOL. So a garbage truck is the same as a TDi? It helps to have some working knowledge of the subject you proclaim to know about.
  16. McCormack

    McCormack Cronkite of CSM

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    Well, I'm excited. I just rented a Peugeot 308 4-door diesel for a 600 km drive north. It's pretty comfortable, though the 5 speed manual feels like its connected via rubber bands. :lol3

    It'll be interesting to see what kind of mileage I see.
  17. advNZer?

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    The twin turbo 3.0 diesel is now called the ..40d but the only vehicle I have seen it in is the x5.there is also a triple turbo version called the..50d


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  18. advNZer?

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    This is a general answer
    I have a BMW 120d six speed manual.
    In real world it's like having a 4 l v8 petrol but paying for the petrol use of a 1.6!the torque is astounding and the economy is undeniable .my day to day economy is 6.5 l per 100 km.the range I get is about 700 km per tank.on the open road the economy is about 5.5 l per 100 k range about 900 km the tank is about 45 l
    The car is very high geared but once rolling you don't need to shift much but you have to keep it above 1700 rpm and keep it on the boost
    I haven't had any service worries but I do reasonable km,nearly 60 km a day.
    It's a little bit clattery and you do get a whiff of diesel when sitting idling



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