The Great Dirt Divide on GSPD

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by luv2lean, Jul 30, 2004.

  1. JimC

    JimC Long timer

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    Here is one reason not to ride 2 up.
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    We believe this is the steep downhill after The Lava Mountain Trail on the ride between Park Lake Campground and Butte. This is the steep downhill that RCrabb mentions in his post about the 1878D1/Lava mountain trail. This picture does not do the trail justice, as it is far steeper than it appears in this picture, we had a difficult time walking up and down the trail.. If you compare the size of the boulders to RCrabb you can see they are of substantial size.

    I think L2L’s comments about 2 up riding are right on the money, and I think they apply to riding a street bike on the ride as well. Could you do it? Probably about 80% of the route, assuming you had favorable weather and trail conditions. Would you have as much fun as we did? I doubt it. Many times during the course of this ride I remarked to myself, that it was a ride like this that the big GS’s and KTM’s, and F650’s and Tigers, etc. were made for, they were just fun to ride on this trip. Every morning you woke, you couldn’t wait to get back out on the trail and see what the day would bring, and we were almost never disappointed.

    On the ride from Canada to Chama, New Mexico we probably did between 1400 and 1500 miles of dirt and gravel roads, two track trails and single track trails through some of the most beautiful country it the USA. This to me is what Adventure Touring is all about. You ride a motorcycle designed to excel on the routes you ride, through some of the most beautiful scenery nature has to offer and you have an incredibly fun time doing it. What are you waiting for!

    Jim in Sacramento
  2. JimC

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    Thanks Scott for an excellent suggestion. I also wanted to comment on the people who do this on a bicycle, because I believe they deserve special recognition. There were many days when L2L and I would make the comment, "Can you imagine riding a bicyle, with all your gear up that!" Anyone who rides this route on a bicycle is really a rare and special person (maybe crazy as well). Riding up and over 11,000ft summits has to be incredibly physically and mentally demanding. My hat is off to these people, as there can be only a very small number of people who actually complete this ride.

    Jim in Sacramento
  3. 12ride

    12ride Been here awhile

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    Scott:
    we were the group Paula let in to use the bathroom that morning at Elkhorn Hot Springs.
    I went back and read your entire trip report and saw that you did go up Lava Mt. trail. - sorry for the mis statement in my previous post I just missed it in the one page that I read on your climb up Fleecer Ridge.
    We were most impressed with all the folks using leg power to ride the route. Almost daily we commented about how we were glad that we could simply twist a wrist and go up those step switchbacks.
    A very good read on your trip. 12ride
  4. luv2lean

    luv2lean not lost til out of gas

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    I also immediately recognized the mud hole in your Ouray report. (great pics BTW - those high passes near Ouray are now on my ride wish list)

    It was a test getting the GS across that mud. The worst part was thinking we may have to go back across it as we went down the road and started to hit more mud!
  5. DHackney

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    In the mudhole in the prior picture, if you go to your right about 20-30 yards you can cross pretty easily.

    Some posters in this thread have been asking about GPS files.

    The full set of GPS files structured for a ten day dual sport ride are on my web site of our CD ride from July. The tracks from our actual route for our nine day ride are also on that page and include additional waypoints from our actual route. We rode everything we could, including some things that are not on the maps but are included on the GPS routes.

    Information on how to do the ride and other resources are here.

    Photos are here.

    Journals are here.

    It's an incredible ride and worth whatever you have to do to make it happen.

    Luv2Lean - great pics and a fantastic ride report!
    Doug
  6. ScottMorris

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    Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed my (very long) writeup.

    Riding the divide on a pedal bike isn't only for the superhuman (we certainly aren't)--though we did see Mike Curiak during his record breaking 16 day ride (now that's superhuman). It takes some determination and you definitely put yourself in a vunerable position at times, but with the risk comes other benefits, as I'm sure you adventure riders know.

    I still think most anyone could pedal the whole thing if they wanted to. Having the (somewhat crazy) desire to do so is another thing. As you know from reading my journal, climbing the big passes was no problem, it was the flats (and washboard) that nearly killed me.

    Keep on riding!
  7. luv2lean

    luv2lean not lost til out of gas

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    That sounds like about the same place we crossed, but in the wet conditions we experienced I wouldnt call it easy. Crossing the water wasn't the problem, it was getting up the other side of the stream bank on the GS in the greasy mud. It was a real slip and slide, but again we had unusually wet conditions for this time of year.
  8. Countdown

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    [Some posters in this thread have been asking about GPS files.

    The full set of GPS files structured for a ten day dual sport ride are on my web site of our CD ride from July. The tracks from our actual route for our nine day ride are also on that page and include additional waypoints from our actual route. We rode everything we could, including some things that are not on the maps but are included on the GPS routes.

    It's an incredible ride and worth whatever you have to do to make it happen.

    Luv2Lean - great pics and a fantastic ride report!
    Doug[/QUOTE]

    Doug,

    I down loaded your tracks into Mapsource then plotted the Divide and it seams like in many places the tracks were quite far from the Divide. In many cases this appeared to be because of a more "fun" dirt route vs long highway sections. However in some cases especially in New Mexico it looked like there were dirt roads closer to the actual Divide. My guess is that the route was done for bicycles not motorcycles. What do you know?
  9. hutchman

    hutchman Been here awhile

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    I believe the section you are wondering about is this one.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49669

    My second post on day 2 and 3 cover that section of the trail. We went past the Lava Mt. turn - It looked stupid steep and rocky.

    Hutch
  10. dirtrider

    dirtrider Dusty Adventurer

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    Good job gentleman! Fantastic ride report and pictures. :thumb
  11. RudyS2MT

    RudyS2MT Rudy in MT

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    Makes a MT guy wonder.... I do ride some of the trails mentioned near here (Helena,MT). And do hope to wander a bit furthers soon! (you are making that larger DS more of a consideration!! lol)

    Thanks for taking the time to post the photos and to answer our questions! You are helping many more then the ones posing them!

    Safe travels!

    Rudy
  12. luv2lean

    luv2lean not lost til out of gas

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    Hey Rudy,]
    Thanks for reviving this thread and some fantastic memories. It gave me a reason to reflect on the trip. I am glad you got something out of the report.
    Chris
  13. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    Nice one...glad I found the link on the Hackney site. :thumb :thumb
  14. Lewy

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    Awesome ride:clap

    I miss my old PD Classic:cry
  15. Southpawman

    Southpawman Overpowered by Funk

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    No kidding!!! Out of all those bikes, the Airhead pulls it off!

    Airheads RULE!!!!!
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  16. tomatocity

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    Great witeup and I am afriad this thread is going to cost me some of my savings. :D