The Great DualSport Tire Shootout!

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by bgoodsoil, Feb 28, 2009.

  1. Rucksta

    Rucksta SS Blowhard

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    I was wondering how you were going getting hold of 606s.
    Hope the combo proves worth the effort.
  2. naginalf

    naginalf Handy Schtroumpf

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    Has anyone had any experience with the Tubliss system, I've heard great things about it. Unfortunately they don't make a 17" version, but all the more reason to get a 18" rear rim installed eventually. I plan to put one in my front tire for now tho.

    I was thinking of cheaping out on tires this summer and trying the shinko 244's until I get the money for the 606's and a rear wheel. How are people installing either of these tires on a rear stock rim, ie. with tube or is it possible to do so without (both are supposedly tube type)? Do you need a rim lock for tube tires? I don't really want to drill the stock rim.

    My previous tires that came with the bike were Metzler Sahara 3's. I didn't get to ride much on them but the rear did wear quite fast. They were awesome in everything I took them in tho, road, wet, and gravel. Never had the least bit of traction issue at all and they wore evenly. Great tires if you don't mind the price and the wear.
  3. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    I thought Tubliss was strictly for off road? Not designed for highway use at all and not recommended.
  4. naginalf

    naginalf Handy Schtroumpf

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    Everything I've read about it says that, according to Neutech, they must state legally that it is not DOT approved, but considering it's not their core market, and all the red tape and BS they'd have to go through to accommodate getting DOT approval for a niche market, of course that is the "official" stance their lawyers make them state. However, in just a few minutes of search, I've found quite a few people who've run them at high speeds and long miles on higway, with no discernible issues.

    I guess that answers my question and makes it moot, but I was just curious if anyone here was using them on their airheads, off road or otherwise. Didn't mean to get off topic, sorry bout that, there are many other threads discussing this in detail.
  5. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    two of my riding partners ran them on the TAT, allows you to run low pressure and no pinch flats. But I don't like them as one still needs to carry spare tubes in case a tubliss failure. Yes you can carry extra inner bladders which aren't patchable, and if the red hard liner gets a hole you may need that too, which doesn't pack well. tires can't be plugged on sidewall, plus in some cases a puncture will also penetrate the bladder. On a long trip it's still wise to carry tubes as a back up. Also if you bend a rim, need tubes as a backup.Tubliss isn't as easy to find on the road as tubes. $100 per hoop also. IMHO not worth it, aslo need to carry a high pressure pump for the bladder, not sure if one of the electric pumps is up to high PSI.

    that being said some people really like tubliss. They do work on the highway just fine.
  6. sunnybandit

    sunnybandit Adventurer

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    I fast forward to the end but I am curious about a 130 rear. WHATS REALLY GOOD? Tubed mefo rear lasts 3, 5kmi. I like them for street, okay for off road (aired down). I need another. Suggestions?
  7. orangebear

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    I run Continental Trail Attack on my r100gs as they were cheap and the bike never went off as yet
  8. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    has anyone tried the Shinko 705 120/80x18 or the 4.10x18 for the rear on the G/S?? I ask this because I had issues fitting the Mefo 120/80 18, it rubbed the shaft.

    I want to get a little more miles than what I get from the K60 heidenuas and less dirt for my next set. due to ridding more pavement lately.
  9. Prutser

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    My last trip I used the mefo explorer, my girlfriend the K60 heidenau and a friend the Mitas E07
    The Mitas lasted the longest and was the least scary in wet conditions.
    My mefo's were the better ones in the mud ( still not great)
    The K60 were the worst on wet tarmac and in the dirt.

    All the brands were doing ok on rocky tracks but the Mitas would be my next set to try on a trip that's not only off-road.
    The explorer is showing cracks in the tire like the nobs wil come off just like my superexplorer did.
    The front mefo wears really uneven and makes the bike's front end shake.
  10. Houseoffubar

    Houseoffubar HoFmetalworks.com

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    Since I did not see it answered, No, you do not need rim locks, unless you want to run VERY low pressure, or ride on a flat.
  11. Ras Thurlo

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    anyone tried the Michelin S12 on their airhead dirtbike?

    I have been told that they work well for heavy bikes in soft terrain.

    Dont know how quickly they will wear if used for dual sport , but was intending to use them as a dirt-only rear tyre
  12. DK Dan

    DK Dan Been here awhile

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    I currently have the S12 rear tyre and used it for an offroad event (mostly sand and mud) and it's the best tyre I've tried offroad so far. I have only driven it a few km's on tarmac and it feels really soft. Just the few km's shows some wear on the knobs.

    Can see that they have improved the tyre and made the variants M12 and S12 XC which should last longer: http://www.jaxquickfit.com.au/michelin-s12-m12-xc-off-road
  13. Ras Thurlo

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    Do you have the newer compound ones?

    I was told by local guys that ride KTM 950 dirtbikes that they wear well on a heavier bike - and assume that they are referring to the new version.

    This dude has a better job than mine:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk8f8NlUD-4
  14. DK Dan

    DK Dan Been here awhile

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    Mines the (very soft) old version so I would consider trying out the new XC version. Actually I'm lucky to have two set of standard G/S wheels. One set for tarmac use mounted with Metzeler Enduro 2 and the other set for offroad use.
  15. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    What size Mefo did you use??? The 120 rubbed on my bike, others haven't had that problem. Mefo's are to damn exspensive, not sure about the Mita's but have to pay extra shipping from Canada to the USA.
  16. Prutser

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    Ras Did you ever try the AC10 ? The grip of those in soft terrain is unbelievable. And they last a long time.
    (don't buy the front, that one sucks) The competition 4 is a great front tire on the airheads in soft terrain.

    I used the 120 explorer. My wheel is laced of center so no problems with the size on my bike.
    The super explorer I tried before was a 140/80.

    What you have with the Mitas I have with the D606. Love to try one but the shipping from the US...:becca
  17. Ras Thurlo

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    have not tried the AC10s, all I had heard was that the front sucked on wet tarmac.

    I have been running Michelin Starcross front (thanks to Ruckta's recommendation) and have found it great in all conditions. Only downside is the blocks started having a rounded shape on the front side after approx 1,000 km. Not noticeable when riding- but got a flat, so turned the tyre around while I was at it.

    it only doubles the price to buy them on US ebay and send them over :D

    I bought two sets of rear 606s and sourced the Starcross front locally. The 606s are a great dual sport tyre, but mud monster they aint.

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  18. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    anyone????????:ear
  19. Rucksta

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    I tried an AC10 rear on a G/S and was extremely disappointed.
    Straight line traction was great but keeping things in a straight line was difficult.

    The AC10 worked well in deep sand but in mud the rear was always chasing the front.
    Wet bitumen was a nightmare.
    Hard pack was squirmy and no amount of pressure adjustment could overcome that this is a lightly constructed tyre unsuitable for a mid weight bike and my style of riding.
  20. Prutser

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    That really surprises me. On my bike its really a great tire in the Dutch sand. Although I still prefer some Bridgestone's but they are not street legal.