The GS Adventure is the best all round large adventure bike in the world....

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Lowveld, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. GrizzLee

    GrizzLee RubiKon Adventures

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    I agree. Total cost of ownership over the life and/or usage of the bike is a big factor.
    Don't get me wrong, I own a BMW fleet. But they are f!#N% spensive to buy and maintain. With that stated, they have been much more reliable than any other bike I have owned.
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  2. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    OP, nice work, but don't even think of trying to please everyone. We all have our own idea of what level of importance to put on the various factors. Price means everything to some, nothing to others. Hell, adventure means different things to different people.
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  3. Mr.Efficiency

    Mr.Efficiency Adventure Wuss

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    Well, that’s like saying “the GS is the best bike in the world at being a GS.” As an owner, I can buy into that.

    However, all the bikes lumped in the class do stuff way better than the GS

    The Honda is more reliable
    The Ducati is way sexier and could whip it like a mule on my favorite adventure spot... a road
    The KTM is really the best adventure tourer if you may find yourself off road...

    You get the picture. I love them all. I think the GS is the undisputed heavyweight best all around bike... that was in the BMW shop when I went to buy my next BMW :-)


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  4. Idahocharley

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    WOW. If a thread ever said "I have too much time on my hands" - this thread says it. LOL.
    Weighted value spreadsheet with tangible variance factors denoting a foreseen conclusion!!
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  5. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    Meh, for excel users, that is a pretty simple spreadsheet.
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  6. Lowveld

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    Well, part of my work involves databases and programming so I inevitably end up in excel when evaluating stuff.

    But I guess the best advice is to simply buy the bike you like the most....
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  7. Lowveld

    Lowveld Adventurer

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    Part of me still misses the simplicity of my red 2007 Klr650...
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  8. JeepDawg

    JeepDawg Long timer

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    :imaposer I was just gonna complain that the KLR was omitted intentionally so as not to skew the rankings.
    Great minds...
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  9. Idahocharley

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    Lowveld - take no offense at my comment - non was intended!! I spent over 30 years working with various engineer types in a variety of industries.... I do use pros and cons when making decisions and weight them in my mind. Its just you have to expect some good natured shit when you post something like that - the weighting factors always are going to be questioned as a minimum.
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  10. pavelp

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    Cool chart. Not sure what you had in mind posting to the boxer sub-forum, but even as a 1200 owner all this really did (for me) was highlight how good the F800GS and Africa Twin both are. At least on paper.
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  11. PWarren4

    PWarren4 Lost & Confused

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    I'm inclined to agree with this analysis -
    But -
    One HUGE factor for me that was not included: Dealership support. "Support" including relative location to my home and work. The "nearest" dealer to my home is 55 miles / 30 miles from work. Their after sale support and quality of shop service work is poor at best.
    The next nearest is 91 miles. To far, but I am hearing good things about this new(ish) dealer.
    The next is 158 miles. After sale/warranty support is non-existent. And they are serious about that.

    With all that said - I have a new dealer 9 miles away (with some old hand certified service technicians) and they successfully sold me a KTM 1290 Super Adventure last week. Time will tell if service and support beyond the warranty will be there.

    And on a side note: I can't help but notice BMW seems to have a much higher rate of quality issues/recalls as of late. The final drives STILL (after 12 years) are hard for me to have confidence in. The ABS modules are insanely expensive to replace out of warranty as well.

    More reasons that pushed me away and I'm now riding a chain-drive KTM.
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  12. holycaveman

    holycaveman Long timer

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    Yes, next question?
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  13. canoeguy

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    There is an unknown value that just relates to the bike as a whole. The GSA is amazing. It makes me smile when I ride it and I am confident in its handling. The balance is a factor never considered on bikes but the GS is amazing there as well.

    Too many gizmos for RTW in my opinion. That's DR, KLR, and XR territory. But god knows there have been countless people do it on the big beemers. Hell maybe I will too in twenty years or so...Probably with the same GSA I have now.
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  14. nostatic

    nostatic i drank what?!?

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    Here's the problem - humans are highly subjective creatives, and to quote Kierkegaard, "life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced." Then if you consider Da Vinci, "all our knowledge has its origins in our perceptions." And those perceptions are objectivity-limited.

    Hence one person finding a GS as the greatest thing since sliced bread and another finding it as boring as dry toast :D
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  15. STcorndog

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    I would add MSRP
    I would add number of recalls
    I would add Consumer Reports manufacturer rating

    Lets not weight any category
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  16. motoxfox

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    Interesting Analogy Jager......So allowing for the cross comparisons of, life in the Northern Hemisphere vs the Southern Hemi.......Could it be taken from that.....that therefore there ARE no bad women ! :killen
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  17. scfrank

    scfrank Old farts riding club.

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    Love mine, cause I like riding it.
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  18. Gone Troppo

    Gone Troppo Somewhat bemused observer

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    The GS is simply the best.

    Close the thread

    :hide
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  19. Jager

    Jager Been here awhile

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    That's exactly right, motofox. A few that are crazy*, but none that are bad.


    * "Powder your nose, paint your toes
    Line your lips and keep 'em closed
    Cross your legs, dot your eyes
    And never let 'em see you cry

    Go and fix your make up, well it's just a break up
    Run and hide your crazy and start actin' like a lady
    'Cause I raised you better, gotta keep it together
    Even when you fall apart
    But this ain't my mama's broken heart"
    -- Melissa Lambert
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  20. skibootdog

    skibootdog Been here awhile

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    #1 in recalls BMW GS
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